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Important Update: The federal judge that the Mormon church has asked to dismiss sexual assault case against them is CURRENTLY working FOR them as an adjunct professor at BYU law school. Reposted with redacted contact info.

Important Update: The federal judge that the Mormon church has asked to dismiss sexual assault case against them is CURRENTLY working FOR them as an adjunct professor at BYU law school. Reposted with redacted contact info.

Literally the definition of conflict if interest. He shouldn't even be on the case. Might as well have Oaks decide.

Funny not funny that this isn't much different than Navou Justice system.

Send this scoop to the SLTribune ASAP. I bet my signs and tokens thath Judge Kimball is "church broke" but good!

Canon 3F of the Code of Conduct for Judicial Employees.

F. Conflicts of Interest.

(1) A judicial employee should avoid conflicts of interest in the performance of official duties. A conflict of interest arises when a judicial employee knows that he or she (or the spouse, minor child residing in the judicial employee's household, or other close relative of the judicial employee) might be so personally or financially affected by a matter that a reasonable person with knowledge of the relevant facts would question the judicial employee's ability properly to perform official duties in an impartial manner.

It appears that he is claiming that he worked for BYU Law School in the past however it is confirmed he is working for them in the present.

It appears he's teaching a call this upcoming semester.

http://www.law3.byu.edu/Curriculum2/Fall_Class_Schedule.pdf

My sister in law kept texting my wife and we thought she was trying to bring us back, my wife finally called her, and they are out and trapped in Utah.

My sister in law kept texting my wife and we thought she was trying to bring us back, my wife finally called her, and they are out and trapped in Utah.

Of all my family members, they are the least likely I'd consider to be open to the facts, but they are on the phone still talking about their experience with finding the truth. Hang in there everyone, it takes time !

This story warms my cold apostate heart.

I would love to have that conversation with one of my siblings. Congratulations!

We're not in Handmaid's Tale Gilead - apply for jobs, get in the car, move. People move families everyday for all kinds of reasons. Glad they're getting out, but *trapped*? C'mon.

Even then, lots of ex-Mormons in Utah. I grew up somewhere else and live in Utah openly ex-Mormon - it's not a problem.

Today is the anniversary of Neil Armstron's moon walk.

Today is the anniversary of Neil Armstron's moon walk.

This man is the reason I started questioning the church’s teachings. Boy am I grateful for his stupid ass.

But when prophets get things wrong they were only speaking as men. Only the true stuff is prophetic! ...Until that's wrong too, then its back to man speak.

The moon is inhabited by uniform six foot quakers that live to a thousand years old. The sun is also inhabited. Oh, and when the city of Enoch was ripped from the Earth it formed the gulf of Mexico.

Scientology, eat that!

July 20, 1969. I was a missionary in a very small town in Switzerland. A member invited us over to watch the moon walk on TV. It may be one of the last times I felt really proud to be an American. Fun times. Seems like 100 years ago.

Two exmos meet on reddit. One homebrews, one roasts coffee. Together, they created Exmo Espresso Black IPA. Cheers, brethren.

Two exmos meet on reddit. One homebrews, one roasts coffee. Together, they created Exmo Espresso Black IPA. Cheers, brethren.

Uhhh, if it’s your turn to bring the treats, you need to bring enough for the class

"We desire all to receive it, all arise."

Ok ok, but are you gonna tell us more about this or not?

So the reason why we chose a Black IPA: I had just done 2 stouts and summertime rolled around so i said we need to do something else. We went back and forth and figured it would be smart if we took a commercial version of our target style and mixed it proportionally with coffee/espresso to see if it was something we would want a large (5 gallon) batch of. The first test we did was with a Belgian Tripel (which we do hope to revisit in the future in another attempt). This was not successful with whatever beans we chose, so we scrapped that plan and we chose another style. I am more familiar with black IPAs so that was my suggestion, and we chose a coffee we felt like would compliment the hop character and mixed it with different roasts. From there, we decided that a black ipa would have more of a lingering hop flavor and espresso would be more up front and that would make an interesting balance between the two flavors. All things considered, I should have used different hops, the hop flavor was there but not to the extent that I personally desired (but i'm sure u/sorrythatusernameist would be less critical on this than i) but that is something i hope to fix for the next attempt.

Recipe (bear in mind i'm still new to homebrewing and i referenced a kit sheet for most so please be gentle): I did a partial mash (steep specialty grains/extract) 8 oz Biscuit 8 oz Cara Brown 4 oz Chocolate Wheat 3.3 lbs Dark LME 3.3 lb Amber LME 1 lb Amber DME 1 oz El Dorado (60 minutes) 2 oz Simcoe (1 at 20 minute, 1 at 5 minute) 2 oz Lemondrop (dry hop)

added 16 shots of espresso roasted Rwandan Peaberry to secondary fermentation

(i think i included everything)

I could've ended up as another number in the statistics of adult suicide. Today you'll rarely find me without a smile. You guys saved a life. Thank you.

I could've ended up as another number in the statistics of adult suicide. Today you'll rarely find me without a smile. You guys saved a life. Thank you.

I guess this is a rare picture.

So glad you're here! We've all lost too many loved ones.

Because I came here to say "Rare picture then, eh?", I'll piggy back. This sub may have helped, but you, sir, you saved a life. You had the strength to make that choice, and don't you ever forget it when life is fighting dirty.

Can someone let me know where I can see statistics about Mormon suicide? My brother was a convert and killed himself, I'm convinced the religion played a part.

Getting in ecclesiastical trouble for reporting my sexual assault...

Getting in ecclesiastical trouble for reporting my sexual assault...

For those of you who remember, I posted a few days ago about being assaulted. Well. Shit has HIT THE FAN.

I'm at a CES school. I filed a Title IX report, police report, and told his fiancee about what happened. Everything was hunky-dory. He was going to get what was coming to him.

Until tonight. I got a call from my bishop demanding to meet with me this week. It's finals week. I told him no. He insisted. Wouldn't tell me what it was about. I demanded. He said that he needed to talk to me about drinking and being in boys' apartments last Thursday. I asked him if this was also about the fact that I was assaulted last Thursday. He said that that was irrelevant.

Title IX protects me from the honor code. I cannot be kicked out of school for violating the honor code because of this. BUT. I am not protected against losing my ecclesiastical endorsement. The perpetrator (in my ward, BTW) went to our bishop and threw me under the bus, and now I'm likely to lose my endorsement and be kicked out of school. Something that wouldn't have happened if I had stayed quiet and NOT reported this at all.

My bishop already doesn't like me. He's already threatened to pull my endorsement because of "dwindling" church attendance (I go once a month). He's a bigot.

I am so beyond angry at TSCC right now I could scream. I'm going to lose my education because I reported a sexual assault, and it doesn't even matter to them. I don't even matter.

Secretly record everything if you do meet with the bishop. They never passed that law they wanted to pass.

Also best of luck.

Anybody have media contacts we can hook OP up with? This is the exact shit they’ve already gotten in trouble for pulling.

Your bishop is also his bishop. Tell your bishop that is the reason you can't talk to him because it jeopardizes an ongoing criminal investigation. When he says he will keep it confidential tell him it doesn't matter what he says about confidentiality, he isn't bound by legal obligations that an attorney is so you can't talk to him or anybody else who is also the perpetrator's ecclesiastical authority's because of an ongoing criminal investigation. Tell the bishop you are not putting him off, but you can't do anything until after the investigation.

u/invisibles_cubit has plenty of media contacts for this very issue

The SP & BP are paying me a visit tomorrow.

The SP & BP are paying me a visit tomorrow.

Tonight, I got a call from the exec sec. The SP & BP want to come to my home tomorrow night. The purpose of their visit is to "build on the positive feelings from our last meeting and invite me to come unto Christ."

I accepted. My wife said she will NOT be in the house when they arrive. My 27 year old daughter said she does NOT want to miss it.

Of course, I'll ask about his progress in getting me an appointment with an apostle in conjunction with the 29th.

An invite to come to Christ is synonymous with “repent”. You have reached the end of your membership , brother. But you’re a saint, nonetheless.

Keep standing tall Sam, for all the small ones and those hunched over in pain! Don't trust these men, or the church, at all! Your work is a huge threat to the hierarchy. Record them secretly (they will probably be secretly recording you). Remember, they are no longer your Branch President and Stake President but instead they are working for those above them who do not care about you and will do anything to stop your project.

Please be careful, don't trust them at all. We have worked extensively with the very top hierarchy concerning pedophilia and they are not honest, will play you, use you, and throw you away if it is best for the Church's image.... and, trust me, you are bad for the church's image. They will resort to any low blow to stop you...or they will be so nice and "buddy up"....but their goal is to stop you!!

I will be praying for you. They will put on their "nice church face" but remember, they are really a giant business, with their lawyers, and alot of professionals behind them trying to figure out any way to get you to stop. They may be try to upset you and your family before the 29th to stop more things from happening. They are snakes in the grass...."Be wise as a serpent!"

So many voiceless people are still depending on you♥️

come unto christ? you're already there. as far as protect lds children is concerned, you have nothing to repent of. don't let them manipulate you into thinking church leadership is on your side. they'd rather shut you up and sweep the abuse under the rug than accept responsibility and confront it. they're a bunch of fucking cowards.

And so it begins.

Story time with Jesus

Story time with Jesus

Don’t forget the 12th commandment!

Thou shalt NEVER FUCKING QUESTION the prophet. 🙄

Am I the only one who thinks the old dude’s beard looks fake as fuck?

With a hat like that, how could I possibly look bad?

I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head... 😂😂😂. Yeah, fuck that. Haha. I’m happy!

I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head... 😂😂😂. Yeah, fuck that. Haha. I’m happy!

Male porn shoulders! I thought I was the only one who posted mine!

A little sailboat with rainbow colored sails. I love the ocean.

The boat partially represents leaving the good ship Zion under my own wind with a hat tip to the Truman Show.

Damn with the male porn shoulders.

I’m getting another one in a couple of weeks. I’ll show them all after I get that one done.

Right pec- Cuban flag with word “Liberto” Left pec- spartan helmet with first letter of each child of mine. Getting half sleeve on left arm in August.

Or PM me and we can figure out how to get a pic to you sooner.

I’m an active Mormon who has very recently (yesterday) starting to lean towards Joseph Smith and the church being a hoax... and I’m scared out of my mind.

I’m an active Mormon who has very recently (yesterday) starting to lean towards Joseph Smith and the church being a hoax... and I’m scared out of my mind.

See title.

Background: I grew up in the church... baptized at eight... served a mission... got married in the temple, five years married now (with no kids). Active Mormon and believer in every way, with a testimony. (Well, besides yesterday’s sudden changes... see below).

About a year ago, my brother-in-law left the church some weeks after reading the CES Letter and exploring into the hidden history. He felt so betrayed. His wife followed suit a few months later, so thankfully they have a strong marriage still.

At the time I spent about an hour glancing through the CES Letter. Some stuff was new to me, but nothing “shook my faith”. I let it go. Hey, after all... I’ve felt the Spirit so many times, the Church had to be true.

Well here I am again. I was texting a friend last night, and I mentioned something gospel related. He came out and told me, cautiously, that he actually doesn’t believe the church to be true, any more. We had some discussion. It was late so we decided we’d talk more later.

In the mean time, today I’ve been re-reading the CES Letter... and watching Jeremy’s interview videos. It is the first time in a long time that I’ve had serious doubts about the church’s divine claims and origins. Three main things get me the most. When put together, they start to paint a compelling picture: 1. Joseph changing his view of his vision of God being separate persons, and being three in one (changing stories to match a developing narrative... inconsistent doctrine on a key doctrine). 2. Joseph Smith and his father, brother, friends being so treasure crazed and some history there... and the alleged pervasive spirituality and mysteriousness in the regional area. 3. The crazy amount of parallels from published literature in the area with that of the BOM..... right around the time he’d be working on the BOM (“View of the Hebrews” being one of the books, etc). Instantly, it became a reality to me that someone COULD fabricate something like the Book of Mormon... especially a creative treasure hunter who enjoyed reading books, who enjoyed and embraced the mysterious and spiritual, etc. If the BOM is fabricated... if it’s not scripture of God... then... the church is false. Without a doubt.

And realizing that... as a real possibility... scares me out of my mind.

I don’t know what to do. I’m going to keep researching. I’m going to talk to my friend. I want to talk to my wife and other family, but I don’t at the same time... I want to do my due diligence first, I guess, but that’s going to be hard keeping it in me. I don’t know what my wife will do. She’s... not only “faithful” in the church, but she also has a pretty stubborn personality... I don’t know what she’d do. But, regardless... if this church is a lie... I can’t embrace it anymore. And now, if I don’t have the “complete truth”, that’s a big scare too... because... then what do I believe? Then what do I do?

Anyway... since I won’t tell my family right now about my doubts, I’m telling you all. Again... I’m not 100% convinced, but I’m not here to be convinced by you all... I don’t want that. I just need to get it OUT of my system... somewhere. Wish me luck on my research... and figuring out how I’m going to handle all this. Thanks everyone.

Edit: Wow, so much support and helpful insight already. Thank you, everyone... it means a lot to me to know I truly am not alone in this frightening situation. I read and appreciate every comment, and will continue to do so. I’ll do a follow up post later on after things have moved on a bit, or if I need specific advice.

Word of warning. Be very open with your wife. If you value your realtionship with her you should tell her how you are feeling right now. Too many stories of spouses hiding who they are for years at a time after they have doubts.

Talk to whoever you can, do all your research. It is your life, and we only get one. And it gets easier, but it is tough because those doubts will never go away now.

No matter what, you and your spouse are a team. It is the two of you against the world. Make sure she knows you are questioning the church, not your relationship. It is too easy to conflate the two.

Try to keep the inlaws out of the picture until the two of you have worked this out between yourselves, first.

Do whatever it takes to be supportive of your wife if she still believes. If what she needs is for you to stay undercover for a while, do that. Does she need you to attend to support her? Done.

1 advice. Involve her right now. Don't go any further without telling her what's going on. You don't want her to think you're hiding anything from her. Things will go better if you do this.

My situation isn't the norm, but I told my husband after about my first 30 minutes of reading that I was beginning to wonder if the church was really what it claimed to be. His reply was that he didn't think it was. I was shocked.

That was the last Sunday we went to church. We were in our mid 50's.

Tell your wife that you read some things that bother you and ask her help in sorting it out. Try to stick to church sources. Don't dump your disbelief in her as a thing.

Try one of these subthreads