TIL That in 1938 pitchers intentionally walked and pitched around Hank Greenberg as he closed in on Babe Ruth's (at the time) record of 60 home runs in a season, because they didn't want a Jew to break Ruth's record.

TIL That in 1938 pitchers intentionally walked and pitched around Hank Greenberg as he closed in on Babe Ruth's (at the time) record of 60 home runs in a season, because they didn't want a Jew to break Ruth's record.
TIL That in 1938 pitchers intentionally walked and pitched around Hank Greenberg as he closed in ...

Petty as fuck lol

From below:

Greenberg had 119 walks in 1938 when he hit 58 HRs. In 1927 when Ruth hit 60 HRs he had 137 walks.

I think this is the same case as people claiming Colin Kaepernick should still be playing football because of social reasons instead of the fact he had multiple shoulder surgeries leading to to a 1-10 season when he started and he couldn't keep up with his "mobile quarterback" status which is why he opted out of the last year of his contract.

Similarly, because the article doesn't mention any primary sources or individuals familiar with the teams claiming this is true, it's nothing but speculation, which, by the numbers compared to Ruth, is incorrect speculation. It's annoying that people take these things as facts when the article itself uses backpeddling vocabulary such as "It is impossible to know what was in pitchers’ hearts", or "Greenberg, however, called such a view “pure baloney.”"

They mention his increase in walks later in the season as some sort of "proof" while ignoring the fact that if some dude is ABSOLUTELY DESTROYING home runs when he's pitched to you're going to want to face the next guy more the more he keeps hitting and hitting and hitting them, especially when this was a season where he became much more productive then previously. They even went on to say that they saw the same uptick in walking with Bonds.

TL;DR: I'm not sure you learned anything today except for tabloid gossip.

Why are Jews hated on so much?

I can't recommend Jewish history enough, it's some crazy shit. Jews refuse to be fully assimilated which makes them a nuisance for conquering, and their strong identity leads to a lot of success for successive generations (see Asians for similar results.) Jews take shit jobs, or jobs the rest won't take, then frugally save up to elevate their children who have education drilled into them from a young age (the whole religion is about education,) Who then help push the community forward, leading to more success. People who emigrated to NY in the 1800's and early 1900's would be put up by a family until they could get on their feet, and once they could afford to, they would host another immigrant to help them get started.

Why do people hate us then? Because we aren't the same. Christians hate Jews for not being Christians, Muslims hate Jews for not being Muslim, and for the most part those are the religions that have ruled the western hemisphere.

Greenberg had 119 walks in 1938 when he hit 58 HRs.

In 1927 when Ruth hit 60 HRs he had 137 walks.

Catholics began to take a stance that they "killed Christ" (ignoring that Jesus himself was a Jew, not a Christian.) But the majority of the antisemitism rose around the same time Protestantism did (not to say that antisemitism is strictly a protestant problem, as that is NOT the case, rather, these shake ups in the church produced such problems.)

Basically, there was/is this belief that Jesus would not return until everyone was Christian, hence the desire to convert nations, empires, etc. So many countries outright banished Jews from their lands, others made laws against them, including some religious leaders. Martin Luther/Luder in particular, founder of Lutheranism (the guy who is said to have nailed his 95 theses to the church door -- though that likely didn't happen and the more interesting thing about his life was how much he loved to use the word scheisse and how he always wrote to his wife about his constipation problems.... anyways...) Luther wrote a treatise Von den Jüden und iren Lügen (SIC) which means "On the Jews and their Lies" which basically outlines a solution to dealing with the "problem" of the Jews. It states that they should..

(And this bit is taken from Wikipedia because I'm too lazy to type it up, but I assure you this is all legit as I've read it in the original and English versions myself)

to burn down Jewish synagogues and schools and warn people against them; to refuse to let Jews own houses among Christians; for Jewish religious writings to be taken away; for rabbis to be forbidden to preach; to offer no protection to Jews on highways; for usury to be prohibited and for all silver and gold to be removed, put aside for safekeeping, and given back to Jews who truly convert; and to give young, strong Jews flail, axe, spade, and spindle, and let them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow.[9]

If that all sounds familiar, there's a lot of work done on how Luther inspired the Holocaust -- though in fairness there are some dissenters saying they're unrelated, but...

Anyway, it was very very common to see Jews being treated differently, banished, etc. before WWII. After that the Western world collectively got together and said "on second thought..." seeing how bad it could get with this sort of thinking.

This is very thin. I was expecting maybe a pitcher or manager admitting years later that they were going to sabotage Greenberg because he was Jewish.

But there's nothing in that article. I'd need better evidence than "he used to not walk as much" before I called dozens of people I'd never met bigots.

Yeah. People who hit a lot of home runs tend to get walked a lot. In McGwire's 70 HR season, he was walked 162 times. In Bonds's 73 HR season, he was walked 177 times (Bonds holds the record for 232 walks in 2004).

The most notable exception was Roger Maris, who had only 94 walks in his 61 HR. But for the bulk of that season, he was 3rd in the batting order and Mantle was 4th. Usually, you walk someone because the next person is less of a threat. Walking Maris meant you had to face Mantle (who had 54 HRs that season).

So yeah, part of the reason might be because Greenberg was Jewish. But another reason might be because Greenberg was a really good hitter. And pitchers don't like giving hittable pitches to good hitters.

Interestingly enough they became wealthy because in the middle ages Christians couldn't loan on interest as it was deemed sinful, and Jews couldn't own land or join craftsman guilds because gatekeeping. So pretty much Jews were left to lending money (they were allowed to because they were already damned to hell anyways and it was a necessary trade), and thus the stereotype of the money hungry Jew was born, out of racism.

Disclaimer: this is super simplified

That question always intrigues me, and I honestly think that its this need for a minority to pick on and blame societal problems on. Makes more sense to go after the Jews because they have always been a wealthier minority. I think at some point it just sticks in some people's head.

Personally, a 'Hanky Greenberg' doesn't sound like a very good candy bar.

Yeah it's kind of difficult to call Jesus a Christian (meaning Christ-like) since, ya know, he was Christ.

Yeah, as a die-hard baseball fan, the walks had nothing to do with the fact that he was Jewish. It was because he was a good hitter. For a pitcher, it is a safer move to walk a batter who is known for hitting home runs than to give up a run. Barry bonds for example, has an incredibly high amount of walks. Because he was a slugger, pitchers would walk him. In fact, Barry bonds was walked so much, that if he had stepped up to the plate with no baseball bat, his on base percentage would have only changed by .001 percent.

Jesus was a Jew, but only on his mother's side.

So let's count how many errors there are.

1) Treating bases on balls as intentional walks (hint: they're not).

2) No mention that intentional walks are frequently based on players having particularly strong seasons (i.e. players that are dangerous to pitch to), or that are strong against the current pitcher.

3) No mention that Hank had been having increasing success at bats for the previous 4 seasons, increasing the perception of being dangerous to pitch to. His HRs went from 12, to 26, to 36, to 40, while his RBIs went from 85 to 139 to 168 to 184. (reference in next point)

4) No mention that Hank Greenberg only played 2 real seasons after this one, and then he was deployed in the military for 3 years. After coming back, his numbers were garbage. (this weakens the argument that this was the only season he had a spike in walks) https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/greenha01.shtml

But sure, tell me more about how it's so obviously bigotry. The numbers only show bigotry if you're part of a culture of victimhood.

What a bunch of jealous dickos.

that's fucking hilarious