Full translation of LGD.Ruru Scandal
Original post : Link
This is a word by word translation, I am trying to keep the original tone as much as possible.
The OP is the cofounder and former employee of VPGAME, which is the biggest Esports betting site in China, owned by LGD.
Ruru is the owner of LGD, LFY all cdec teams, VPGAME and KeyTV.
The post has 2 parts
Disclaimer by OP: Perfect World does not know about the API-KEY, and all players are respectable.
Part1(not too related to the topic I will briefly explain it, if would be grateful if someone wants to expand part1)
OP wanted to leave VPgame to join his friend's company(C5game). There were some disputes about his stock in VPgame and C5game copying VPgame's product. LGD.ruru sued him right after they made some agreements, so OP went mad and exposed all the stuff below.
One thing worth mentioning is that Ruru asked him to use his connection to delete bad posts about Nanyang replay cup(Nanyang crusie) because people was flaming her for match fixing and airing replays.
Part2("I" refers to OP)
In 2013, Ruru stole an API-KEY from Steam. The normal API-KEY can only view the data of public matches, however the stolen one was able to view private matches, and this is the reason why VPGAME in early stage can view the results of private matches. Using this API-KEY, under the instruction of Ruru, we build a database system which was able to browse other teams' training results(draft/build), so that we can figure out the opponents' strategies and the way to counter it. Personally, I think all the players who accomplished things are legit, and I don't think any of the players were using those data, I think it is mostly for the stats man in the team.
If you try to go to http://www.vpgame.com/das/ then it redirect you to the login page, that means the page actually exists.
Since you try to go a page under vpgame.com but it doesn't exist, it will return a 404 error.
For people who need further explanation:(练习 means scrim)
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Those two games are scrims between IG.V and IG, for pro teams, keeping scrims results secretive is extremely important.
The other thing is 大力菠菜(another Chinese betting site)'s dragonclaw hook and Rotten Stache got stolen.
When we first got the API, we didn't know we could move users' items using the API. After Ruru mentioned it, we tried it and it worked out and we reported to Ruru. Then what we did was move 大力菠菜's dragonclaw hook and Rotten Stache to DOTAMAX(another Chinese site, more similar to dotabuff, but has betting function as well), to create more chaos, we moved some of VPGAME's arcanas to DOTAMAX too. So that we can fool Valve that DOTAMAX scammed those items.(ajijijiji added this, op wasn't being too clear, ajijijiji was a bit confused early too)
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(this is my(ajijijiji) tranlation, this is a chat group, and the chat group name is "founders of VPGAME", 3 means the group has total number of 3. OP(green) said 大力菠菜 has already reported to Valve about the loss, and then Ruru( the female avatar) said move 200 arcanas to DOTAXMAX and report loss to Valve as well)
the das section under vpgame has already been deleted, but still it says updating, it would be 404 error if it doesn't exist at all.
Most recent update
Look at those complaints made by users about losing items
LMAO Ruru even made post on SGamers to flame me. I am not gonna expose much more proofs, because I need to save some for myself for the trial case. You will regret for it if I actually expose it(kinda hard to translate this line, but u get the meaning). It would ruin the whole esports industry.
Update credit to /u/Aelvez
News Update: A former Valve employee(Langelic, he disclosed his identity) confirmed the existence of said key. He also said he was aware of the drama and had reported it to Icefrog in November. source
Everything above was from the original OP.
TLDR for lazy people
LGD is the owner of the biggest betting site in China - VPGAME
LGD.ruru stole an API-KEY
VPGAME was able get scrim data of all other teams.
VPGAME was able to move items freely between any steam users, they did it in a way making valve think other competitors(大力菠菜,DOTAMAX) scams their users.
Here is my take on this:
Ruru is the owner of LGD(pro team), VPGAME(betting site), KeyTV(the one which ruined Shanghai Major and got fired midway), due to conflict of interest, I am not sure if this is allowed.
Also Ruru's ex-husband jingling(they divorced), is a key figure in Perfect World.
Chinese dota fans are already suspecting if LGD has some secret deal to Valve so that Valve send LGD to Boston.
Ruru is also the girlfriend of Inflame(who used to play for ehome and cdecy), and has a lot contracts dispute with other pro players.
Not sure if this is only me, but ever since Shanghai you could tell how dirty Ruru is, even though the org probably has a shitload of money there's no way any of this should be legit. I wouldn't mind seeing any organization she's involved with banned from Valve events, this is just next level pathetic. Even though it would be hard to accomplish such a ban or whatever, it's really unfair to anyone else and there probably should be some consequences, preferably non-financial in order to have less scum involved in dota. Seeing a response from Valve would be really cool though.
Also that claim that the info wasn't used that much except for the stats could or couldn't be true, you still get a lot of info about teams you shouldn't have info on. How do you even get your hands on such an API key is beyond me
EDIT: Everyone seems to want reply from Valve, Ruru is an ass reddit thread when?
2GD gets banned forever but this woman gets to run tournaments L U L
So ritsu leaked one scrim and meanwhile LGD had the data of every scrim every other team ever played? Did I understood it right?
Enough of that UI shit. We got some drama boys.
News Update: A former Valve employee(Langelic, he disclosed his identity) confirmed the existence of said key. He also said he was aware of the drama and had reported it to Icefrog in November. sauce
While Dota2lounge got banned for "ill-eagle" bets... VPGAME still fucking works and is probably the bet site with the most users.
And Ruru also owns LGD which controls many major teams in China for ez 322's.
The more people esports gets the more its gonna end up like a traditional sports.
The worst part is that Valve keeps working with them which really tells you which side they are on
Might want to add she stole the API key from Perfect world, where coincidentally her husband/bf is.
Something you don't hear everyday for 500, Alex
yeah man, poor ristu
Basically teams try stuff out in non-official games and keep those strats secret for tournaments and no one leaks them most of the time and Ruru had the API key that Valve uses that can access all the games so she basically had the info on those while no one else does which gives her team(s) an unfair advantage, at least.
Oh shit we gettin the frog involved, shall he show no mercy.
The thing that's bothering me the most is that she got the key in 2013. That means her teams probably had all the info they wanted/needed for a long time now. In return that probably made her a lot of prize pool money, at least more than she would have without that key, the items thing is just like a bonus compared to that, at least in my opinion it seems like a bigger problem at the moment
we discussion now
I remember ppds draft analysis for TI5 mentioned cdec banning some hero/strat they had used in scrims. This explains it. Though maybe I'm misremembering. Think he credited it to China simply sharing scrim info with each other. If he only knew.
But doesn´t the stats-man share his results with the players? Like favorite heroes and bans. I mean that's what he is paid for.
I honestly and personally miss 2GD so much :'( #bringbacktheASS
That would explain why they always overperformed at big tournaments kappa.
correct, but the ex VP/OP said "Personally, I think all the players who accomplished things are legit, and I don't think any of the players were using those data, I think it is mostly for the stats man in the team." Kappa
Wait, does this mean LGD had access to other teams' private strim data for the last few years?
They also moved some valuable hats and claimed those were scammed by rival betting site so they can report to Valve.
I think it has to do with the fact that PW operates the Chinese servers, so they would have access to everything that valve does.
Since these APIs are relevant for Chinese sever, it makes sense they came from PW.
plot twist: icefrog is ruru's boyfriend
edit: In the last paragraph where it was indicated that LGD has some sort of "deal" with Valve seems plausible. I mean the only reason why a SEA team missed out on the majors was because of some miscommunication between the parties involve regarding paperworks that was needed to be submitted by Valve.
I sincerely hope Valve takes an action and investigate the issues that is plaguing not only the Chinese community but the whole Dota community as well.
I thought about it, but OP didnt mention perferct world, so i am not adding it
judging from history, yes, Valve won't do shit... they really love china market money
Or they are fixing the hole? Or just shows that ice frog didn't have the final say? Or he was on holiday with Kemal? Or he is gathering evidence? Or he was working on 7.00 and wants to concentrate on that first? Or he just didn't care? Or...
No wait, we reddit know best, this is troubling, ice frog is RuRu
Ritsu didn't just leak one scrim... He created a private chat group to share scrims
They stole hats!? Shit, this has gone too far.
That's basically the case. Another word for it is an analyst imagine giving a cheat sheet to a analyst ( Oh God ) that basically gave them enough time to prepare a perfect strategy to counter your teams picks/strats/bans. That's truly an unfair advantage to those teams that they had faced.
I hope so, I mean right now, she's fooling valve, stealing API and transferring item here and there, then report "hey valve, your system suck, we just lost several items" thus more work for Valve on their API side, less time on the actual game itself. Valve can sue her for this, breach of security?
If she really stole the API Key since 2013 then valve could/should sue her. We'll have just to wait for someone or by Valve to validate these statements made by a former employee of ruru.
I mean if all of these are true then Valve should punish the parties involve with NO MERCY like they did with those who 322'd. Like a Lifetime Ban on all valve events.
OH YEAH almighty gaben will slam his hammer on ruru! R-right, g-guys?
http://imgur.com/a/2tece Some redditors are so funny
we got enough of that UI shit.. now we got API shit on our hands.
The saying is almost true that ruru owns half of chinese scene doesn't feel like a joke. she knows how to turn things her way.
for example:- just look at tommorow's DPL LAN finals in china and how many teams/spots she own in that.
I'd assume it'd have to do with her being formerly married to some dude who was presumably a higher up at Perfect World which has distributing rights to Dota 2 in China. I'm not really sure what distribution rights means, though, and how comprehensive their access to the Steam API would be. Idk, seems like a huge breach of security and part of me is really curious if it'd be even possible.
I don't get it. Can somebody explain it to me in "stupid".
its more obvious when you realise that lgd got sent to manilla for absolutely no reason
Valve wont do shit. They probably know most of it and keep working with said parties.
Chinese dota fans are already suspecting if LGD has some secret deal to Valve so that Valve send LGD to Boston.
And that time they got a direct invite to Manilla despite the fact they had barely played any tournaments.
I would not be surprised whatsoever if one of these days we find out Ruru has had shady dealings with Valve.
I think he means that generally other regions get shit on a lot more by Valve and the China area seems to get a free pass. There's been match fixing accusations before in China, but they go mostly unpunished while Russian, SEA, and South American teams get banned.
Dota is now officially a legit sport. Congratulations
Used to ;)
Why should Wyk explain it? What has he got anything to do with it?
Honestly as far as chinese people go, innocent until proven guilty is a naive concept, their entire culture is based on "if you can get ahead, do it, no matter how".
How do you even get your hands on such an API key is beyond me
This is what is bugging me the most.
It's not like this key was just existing and someone stumbled on to it. For it to exist, a developer has to have actually coded the route, controllers, etc. Even if any admin/mod/randomuserlevel gave them their username and password the api key which would not be visible to anyone except the developers.
Xiao8 has been a God since NewBee, and again this key is for PW server and affects Chinese teams only.
The point is they are defaming their rival.
and even more honestly thats how the fucking world works, don't talk like this only happens in China, money talks
real plot twist: gaben is ruru's boyfriend and he fired 2gd because she didn't like james complaining about the shanghai major production issues
because most ppl are money hungry whores. they want moore and mooore
Valve will do nothing I suppose.
Perfect World needs the API key to handle transactions on their servers. Someone leaked it from Perfect World then. All dota 2 item transfers are done via a game-specific API key, so PW needs it too.
holy shit this is bigger than i thought
Well, the difference is that Valve pretty much owns the scene, if they decided to forbid her and her orgs in their events players would look for other options before joining the team for salary, also it could be that she couldn't pay such salaries without Valve prize money. The problem here would be if she becomes a shadow owner, but I'm not so experienced in how that stuff works so I won't comment much on that, but a response from Valve regarding this would be very nice, especially due to her owning many teams, it's a disadvantage for the whole scene when she owns that many teams
Probably because most people see him as the closest point of communication between Valve and this subreddit (he always posts shit as soon as its announced etc).
I'm not necessarily agreeing with wyk having to explain it, would rather have gaben slam down the hammer on ruru.
It's not only about courts, even if they lose in court they shouldn't allow her or anything she's involved in near any Valve event ever again, at least that's my opinion, maybe some other punishment is more appropriate for Valve, but something should definitely be done, in court or not
And why xiao8 is the God among men. Always doing well, even with a rag tag stack of scrubs whose western equals, na would be ashamed to call their own.
Not sure if flair should be "complaint" ... but up to you :P
I was just thinking there would be some sort of obvious cue, like banning a pocket-strat they haven't revealed at all yet. I'll have to go back and watch that draft analysis again.
Kind of brings CDEC's run into question.
If Ruru actually stole a API-Key or used it for messing with inventories or push Valve to take actions against a competitor, all those seems perfectly fine to at least ban VP game.
Just ask for your own key and check out the rules (do it on steam today!)
If Valve want to actually make public the fact you don't fuck with their API, they better make it a bit nasty. Just lock non-tradable, non-echangeable and all that all items on VP game. Kill it with fire, tell people what you did and then, take a good break for the new year eve.
not only both ig teams man, it should be all teams(eg secret vp whatever)
But the dates are on november. The fact that this came out today means the frog probably just took it as a heads up. That is troubling.
Can you follow the news and update it? Thanks for the translation.
Simple fix get a PC. Oh wait still fps issues on PC...
Anderson and Ruru were married (for business relations?), she's currently involved with Inflame (boytoy)
If they decide somehow in an very unlikely case to forbid her/her teams she'll just move the teams on another person's name and continue to reap the benefits.
poor IG and IG.V ..damn
Direct invite which they demonstrated was justified when they got 4th place...
You guys are reaching trying to tie Valve to this. You already have some huge scandal here, why turn to wild speculation and make connections where there really aren't?
Valve needs to get they shit together. Some kids gets life bans for some match fixing and meanwhile this shit just gets ignored.
IceFrog and Wyk are very similar...
I don't even know that powerful API shit exists in the first place. Sounds like some ultimate software in comic and action film.
Hmmm so Valve and Wyk should explain this about giving away free slot of Execration to LGD. And theres a drama too there in Exeration,when valve submit the papers very very late and manager of execration post this on his facebook. is it valve delay the papers of execration so that LGD can grab the last slot for boston majors?!
谐音 They sound the same and this has been used a lot to flame politicians because of the censorship in China.
Yes, same org, just not using LGD's name.
that's what she said! not really