Balls of Steel All Aboard.

I would be projectile vomiting the entire time.


That's every ship before steam power.

I would be projectile shitting

I would be projectile

Actually we're out of lemons and probably going to die from vitamin deficiency before then.

My cousin crewed on the SORC (Southern Ocean Racing Conference) for a season or two. He had some crazy stories. He passed away last year and that made me think of him. Cool footage.

I'd be in tears



Hold Fast. That looks awesome

That can't be true. The Flintstones are from like a million years ago.

I'm pretty certain that this is footage from the 1998 2013 Sydney-Hobart Race in Australia

Edit: /u/gamman over in /sub/sailing is correct. This gif is from the 2013 Sydney-Hobart.

The 1998 Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race was the 54th annual running of the "blue water classic" Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race. It was hosted by the Cruising Yacht Club of Australia based in Sydney, New South Wales. It was the most disastrous in the race's history, with the loss of six lives and five yachts. 55 sailors were rescued in the largest peacetime search and rescue effort ever seen in Australia.

The Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race is an annual event hosted by the Cruising Yacht Club of Australia, starting in Sydney, New South Wales on Boxing Day then heading south through the Tasman Sea, past Bass Strait, into Storm Bay and up the Derwent River, to cross the finish line in Hobart, Tasmania. The race distance is approximately 630 nautical miles (1,170 km). The race is run in co-operation with the Royal Yacht Club of Tasmania, and is widely considered to be one of the most difficult yacht races in the world.

On the 2nd day of the race (27th December) severe weather conditions struck the fleet off the south-eastern Australian coast. An unusually strong low pressure depression developed which resulted in mid-summer snow across parts of south-east Australia. The weather system built into an exceptionally strong storm with winds in excess of 65 knots (Force 12, +73 mph, +118 kph) and gusts to 80 knots. The rising storm caused the sinking of five boats, seven were abandoned and 55 other sailors had to be rescued from their yachts by ships and helicopters. Overall, the rescue efforts involved 35 military and civilian aircraft and 27 Royal Australian Navy vessels, and proved to be Australia's largest ever peacetime rescue operation.

If you have any questions about sailing or yacht racing, c'mon over to /sub/sailing and we can answer them, and help you get started if you want to try it.

We'll eat the slaves under deck

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Omg. This is getting too real. I want to opt out.

Would be such a terrifying way to die. Fuck that.

This is actually quite a lot safer than it looks.

My dad spent my 20's sailing around the world in a 43 foot sailboat. About once a year I would take a month off of work and join up with him to cruise and help with the ocean crossings.

We've been in 2 storms that were similar (or worse, it's hard to judge from that gif). The first was while sailing down the west coast of the US, about 250miles offshore from San Francisco. A 2 day gale with 40-60kt winds built the seas up to about 25-30 feet (bigger than what appears to be in this gif). Seas that size aren't a problem - the boat just bobs up and over them. The challenge is when you have cresting waves on top of the swell that crashes over the front of the boat, washing the deck and anyone on top. Here is why that looks so gnarly:

I assume this is a race, because they are running a lot of sail for that amount of wind, causing the effect of the waves to be much worse. The swell isn't all that big, but there are cresting waves causing the breaks to wash the deck They are quartering into the wind so the waves are washing the boat, rather than harmlessly rolling with it

Reasons why it's much safer than it looks:

That is a big boat - 60ft+ by the looks of it. Well sea-worthy They are nowhere near getting close to knocked down - the cresting waves are nowhere near big enough The crew is all secured with harnesses and lines

Those guys are in more danger of missing lunch than death.

I mean they aren't dying. It they capsize or broach (types of flipping the boat in the water) there is potential, but under a good skipper and crew, that's not really a fear.

They have full foul weather gear and and are all on the rail. They are in the best position possible right now.

Not really. Older ocean going vessels relied primarily on Initial Stability, basically being big an heavy. Modern racing yachts rely largely on secondary stability, where the closer they get to tipping over the more stable they become, due to the shape of the hull and the use of a keel. That's why the boat is tilting so much and everyone is sitting on the high side of the boat.

The waves would still be 'exciting' but the boat itself wouldn't be contributing as much to the excitement.

The closest I got was 8ft waves in the North Sea on a 22' boat that is almost impossible to capsize...

It was fucking awesome

Having been in a similar situation... I was honestly far too scared for my brain to even spend a second to think it should vomit. And back then I got sea sick semi-regularly.

If you look closely you can see Anna and Elsa's parents. This isn't going to end well.

I thought the same before I joined the Coast Guard. We were going through 20’ seas on an 87’ Patrol Boat and I realized I should be seasick but the raging fear is more powerful.

nah, you were allowed to beat your kids back then so i doubt that was much of a problem

It's actually the cortisol. Cortisol elicits an antiemetic effect that rivals exogenous corticosteroids, which are used for chemotherapy-induced nausea.


In fact, one of the symptoms of low cortisol levels is vomiting. Evolutionarily speaking, it makes sense. You don't want to be regurgitating your stomach contents as you're trying to run away from a predator.

Way hay and up she rises,

Way hay and up she rises,

Way hay and up she rises,

Early in the morning!

I do RORC races. (Royal Ocean Racing Club) none of the seas are as big as Southern Ocean but we have plenty similar to the gif.

Did not know about secondary stability the first (and only) time I was on a racing yacht. When we tilted into the wind and got some speed going, I had a complete and utter meltdown. Something about the FUCKING DECK SUDDENLY GOING DIAGONAL AND ME FEELING LIKE I WAS GOING TO FALL INTO THE SEA left me completely nervous and riddled with anxiety.

Cool experience but hard pass on ever getting on a yacht again. Fuck that.

Adrenaline is a hell of a drug

*scurvy. Vitamins weren't actually discovered until 1912.

First, you have to throw three of weakest looking slaves off the boat.

Could they not have seen the storm coming?

There was a lot of discussion afterwards about this exact issue.'s_inquest

Abernethy also criticised the Bureau for making insufficient efforts to inform race officials of a dramatically upgraded weather forecast about the severe storm developing south of Eden, when it was common public knowledge the race was scheduled to begin.

Well also it looks like there's someone recording from a helicopter who presumably already has or could summon help if they needed it.

I have a 23' cabin buddy and I can't even imagine 8 foot swells. In a fast moving storm on the St. Croix/upper Mississippi I hit 4' swells and felt like I was on Deadliest Catch. The waves were super close. As soon as we came down the crest of one, we would smash into the face of the next. Huge splashes coming over the bow hitting me in the face. I thought it was great. The wife and kids, not so much.

I imagine your 22' had a little wider beam and deeper hull.

So your pops is early retired and traveling the world and you have a job where you can bail for a month every year. That's what interests me the most here.

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8' beam, I believe.

I'll be honest, it was both terrifying and exilirating at the same time, we were under sail close hauled (like in the gif), unable to reef the main, using the jib for control...

We had harnesses and life jackets, and it was a flotilla of 4, but it was still absolutely overwhelming how much power the sea had that day.

Waves like this hardly ever appear on the open ocean. Close to the coast, where currents are weird and the water is shallow, you really don't want to deal with nasty weather. But out on the big blue, even a big storm won't kick up anything nearly as nasty as this. Dealing with a tall wave isn't a big problem, as long as they aren't that steep. The biggest waves I've ever seen was south of Madagascar, but with 12-13 seconds between each one, it was actually not too uncomfortable.

I sailed through the Gulf Stream earlier this year, and got the current planning screwed up about as badly as possible. Where the charts indicated we should have had four knots of current pushing us along, we had four knots on the nose – with forty knots of wind from behind. The biggest waves were about as tall as the top of our mast (about 15 metres, a fucking massive wave when you're in a 32 foot boat). If it hadn't been for the need to get through the thing, I would definitely have been scared shitless.

The southern ocean is by far the most angry I have ever seen an ocean. I was on a a ship about 200nm south of mainland Australia when we got caught in a force 10. Its a strange mix of fear combined with an unexplainable feeling of exhilaration and excitement. I think you tend to put the fear in the back of your mind, and focus on the speed of the boat. It becomes a competition to get the highest speed down each wave. Hard to describe, but anyone who has been there will understand.

The people the ship has thrown off. They pulled out their cameras on the way down.

Larry Ellison.

Yes, that Larry Ellison from Oracle.

"We were the first survivor to get in and finish the race. It was a race for survival, not for victory, trophies or anything. like that." -Ellison

In my extremely non-expert opinion, best position possible would be not in 50+ foot seas that can capsize you at any moment.

I recognize the words but the meaning is a mystery

Or do I? No, I suppose not.

Nah, scurvy is slower than that. It takes at least four or five weeks without vitamin C before you start showing any symptoms. And from that point it takes months to get serious enough to become life threatening.

I had a patient with scurvy in the ER once. He wasn't a sailor or anything. He just had terrible eating habits, and lived on soda and chips and nothing else. He didn't think anything was wrong but his mom brought him to the hospital when he started losing his hair and teeth.

Wait. It was 1998? Could they not have seen the storm coming? I mean, satellites did exist then. What am I missing here?

Your average person easily forgets or simply does not realise how absolutely unforgiving the ocean can be, as well as how many fucks it gives about your life. Spoiler alert; it's zero.

On an 87’ Cutter the new guys (E-1 to E-3) will sleep in forward birthing at the very front of the ship.

We had buckled straps to secure us in our rack so we wouldn’t “fly” up and hit the metal then fly back down and land on the metal side rails of the rack.

Dude, 87 feet must be insane. I worked on cruise ships, and hurricane season was brutal. But that was on 900 foot ships. I cannot imagine an 87 footer. How did you sleep at night?

A sailboat is much much more stable than a patrol boat, the sails pull the boat downwards and along with the heavy keel, they make the boat maintain a steady line that helps it cut through the waves. The keel also makes it next to impossible for the boat to turn over.

A patrol boat just kinda bobs along the surface, and will easily be overturned if you do not approach a wave correctly.

Look at the people on the gif, they are sitting on the edge as a counterbalance but their movement (and the boat's) is much calmer than the sea around them, you can see how it's cutting right through the water.

If that were now, it would be marketed as a designer thing:

Out of citrus? Try S-Curve-E

No, that's directly into the wind so sailing doesn't work...

They're doing it just right.

Most jizz is already projectile by design.

Until you have an experience where your spinnaker gets messed up and tries to pull your boat over until you can finally untangle some lines. Then you realize how hard it is to capsize.

Imagine kids 200 years ago with months of, "Are we there yet?"

This is the hardest part to get over, that tipping over is actually quite hard to do.

Yeah, no pressure.....but, like...we’re all watching and waiting for something from you

Can you share some of his stories? Perhaps a new post on /sub/heavyseas ?

Ill be following you for a week or so for updates. Feel free not to though, no pressure

I doubt you'd hear it over the roar of the ocean, if you even hear that over the sound of me screaming like a little girl.

I was living on a diet of nothing but water, beer, and chicken noodle soup for about 2 months before I started getting scurvy. Had bumps all over my legs, that started spreading to the rest of my body. I assumed maybe it was the new laundry detergent.

Then my gums started bleeding. All the time.

So I spent some money on some vitamin C pills and threw bell peppers into my soup. Took the sores months to heal. Bleeding gums stopped quicker, though.

You shouldn't take waves head on with a power boat either. By taking them at an angle you roll over the crest. If you take it head on you'll slam down when you cross the crest. Movies often show it like that because it's more dramatic and some people with boats take them like that for the thrill, I guess.

The guy above is wrong, anyway. It looks like they could probably tack and be headed straight towards the waves, but it would make the trip a lot rougher.

Why in the fuck would they have an "around the world race" for beginners.

I'm very wary to get on a boat race on Lake Michigan to Mackinac Island Michigan race with beginners, much less around the world. Around the world is where people fucking die.

I can't stress how fucking retarded that sounds. I'm not putting my life on a boat anywhere near a sailing rookie and you need much more than just a skipper with knowledge.

To try and put that in perspective, sailing around the world is the sailing equivalent of Mount Everest. And then having a rookie potentially have to tie down your climbing line/spike under pressure. And your trip only has one Sherpa to help. Edit apparently you gave two people with experience but that's still not nearly enough.

EDIT: Reading up on the race, it seems like two pro sailors limit, and the rest amateurs, which is quite a difference from a "beginner." Amateurs just mean you have never been paid to sail professionally.

He cries because be took a shot in the eye.

/sub/seashanties represent

Or make them dance/fight for your entertainment

The first legal slave owner in American history was a black tobacco farmer named Anthony Johnson.


I can't even take a flimsy tame ferry river ride without feeling like I need to lay on the ground and throw up... This would absolutely be the death of me

Someone above posted this:

The 1998 Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race was the 54th annual running of the "blue water classic" Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race. It was hosted by the Cruising Yacht Club of Australia based in Sydney, New South Wales. It was the most disastrous in the race's history, with the loss of six lives and five yachts. 55 sailors were rescued in the largest peacetime search and rescue effort ever seen in Australia.

Or /sub/thalassophobia

You don't just magically appear back on shore or the safe harbor bad weather. And people don't just drop out races because of weather either.

Even if you want to drop out, you still have to get through it. It's not like you can just stop in the middle of risky hiking trip 100 miles from the closest gas station/shelter and say "fuck this I'm out" and magically appear safe in your hotel room.

Nah mate!. The best possible position right now would be on the couch eating doritos and sipping dew.

There are quite a few miserable areas with frustratingly large waves. One frequent cause of huge waves is when you have winds and currents working in opposite directions. The coast of South Africa is among the most dangerous in the world because of this. Shallow water is another contributor to nasty conditions, for example in the North Sea and south of Madagascar. Any kind of seamount could cause trouble, as can currents (for example the Gulf Stream), weird effects close to land etc.

The ocean can definitely be inhospitable even when you're hundreds of miles from anything, but the same weather conditions will create much more manageable waves on the open ocean than under any "complicating" conditions.

Why didn't you just eat food like a normal person?

I mean they aren't dying.

Six sailors died in that race (but not on that boat).

Had a girlfriend years ago who went on a British Steel Round-the-world yacht race for beginners. Only the skipper and one other person were allowed to have sailing experience.

Her description of the leg across the Southern Ocean was - distressing.

Are you fucking sorry?!


And Vitamin C wasn't discovered until 1930. Which is completely irrelevant though, since you don't need to know how it works to know that citrus fruits prevent scurvy. They figured that much out in the 18th century already.

Fuck her! Buy the boat and marry it

What will we do with a drunken sailor?

What will we do with a drunken sailor?

What will we do with a drunken sailor?

Early in the morning!

Sometimes it's better to cancel things.


You mean it’s not hitscan?

This seems like the officials dropped the ball, not the weather bureau.

Spoilers dude!

He didn't think anything was wrong when his hair and teeth fell out? How overweight was this person?

It's also worth noting that this footage is most likely post-storm

Nope. It was taken from a rescue helicopter. It might not be at the absolute height of the storm, but those are some pretty sporty conditions. As one of the larger (and faster) yachts in the race (looks to me like a Nautor Swan 68), it's possible that they avoided the worst of the storm.

The sails are not very reefed

Their reefs look fine to me. They are certainly not overpowered in that clip.

Apparently a few did, though not necessarily from this vessel.

The 1998 Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race was the 54th annual running of the "blue water classic" Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race. It was hosted by the Cruising Yacht Club of Australia based in Sydney, New South Wales. It was the most disastrous in the race's history, with the loss of six lives and five yachts. 55 sailors were rescued in the largest peacetime search and rescue effort ever seen in Australia.

First they dance then we throw.

It's almost never too rough to make a rescue. If someone goes out in a literal hurricane then they might be saying goodbye to their families, but I've had the lifeguard called on me in 90-100 kph winds and both the air and sea rescuers were super comfortable with it.

This guy boats.

Maybe we just found their old stash in 1912

he was making a joke

Sometimes you get lazy (extremely depressed) and you find a combo of food/drink that's super easy to make and tastes good enough that you can just keep getting the same thing without absolutely hating it. That way you have one more thing to hate yourself for, and a lot more time to hate it because you don't have to think about what you're going to eat.

Yeah, but having the pole against the headstay and an asshole in the spin sheet during a reach will definitely pucker up your butthole.

Put 'im in charge of an Exxon tanker.....

They ate all our lemons!

Dropping into that trough though... woo! No thank you!

Balls of steel? Psssh.

All the dudes on the left railing? Whale watching.