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That time Jeremy Corbyn and Tony Benn were stopped by a police officer as they sneaked into Parliament late at night:

That time Jeremy Corbyn and Tony Benn were stopped by a police officer as they sneaked into Parli...

Woooarr, lads on tour, few ales, sneaking into Parliament, giving the plod the fast talk, commemorating socialist suffragettes in an appropriate and respectful manner..

Express: RED Jezza DEFACES Parliament in SHOCK insult to ORDINARY BRITONS.

Hard to compete with that side of Corbyn.

For a communist Britain-hating terrorist sympathiser, Corbyn does a hell of a good job of masquerading as a fairly down to earth bloke I'd happily have a pint with.

As we mark 100 years of votes for women over 30, here's a Daily Mail editorial from 1927 campaigning *against* the extension of the vote to women aged 21+

As we mark 100 years of votes for women over 30, here's a Daily Mail editorial from 1927 campaign...

The mail on the wrong side of history? How refreshing.

Haha, there's a reference in there to the Zinoviev letter as well.

The more times change...

Hurrah for the Blackshirts!

Is it evil, 100% yes. The 'Enemies of the People' and 'Traitors' headlines alone should be clear enough evidence of that, let alone all the hate they spew on a smaller scale every single day.

Today marks the 100th anniversary of women gaining the right to vote

Today marks the 100th anniversary of women gaining the right to vote
Today marks the 100th anniversary of women gaining the right to vote

Achieving some level of women’s suffrage was an incredible achievement, considering the role of women in society at the time.

Progress in society takes time, and it took over 50 years for women to get any voting rights - in a society where women were frequently excluded from decently paid work or owning property, it was a real signal of independence. A move away from being the ‘responsibility of men’.

In any time where political inertia from the elite is the theme of the day, these celebrations are well timed, and will hopefully inspire people to stand up for what they believe in.

Downvote me all you like, but women spent most of the 19th and 20th century trying to get equal rights, and the progress that has been made should be celebrated not dismissed.

It had the word ‘women’ in it, and is positive. That seems to trigger some people into blind fury.

Some women. Actually 8 million women. But also 5 million men.

portrayed the suffragettes as a group of "ugly" women and "spinsters".

Ha. Not much has changed there. "Oh, you're a feminist, you must be a lesbian, hur, hur, hur".

Donald Trump's tweet about the NHS being crap and Britons rebelling against universal healthcare seems to be based on him watching this morning's Fox News interview with Nigel Farage. Compare and contrast here:

Donald Trump's tweet about the NHS being crap and Britons rebelling against universal healthcare ...

The irony of an American calling our healthcare system crap...

Nigel Farage: "Foreigners should go back to where they come from and not meddle in our politics"

Also Nigel Farage

No, he took those people and changed the truth by claiming they were protesting about something they weren’t. Now the US government’s official statement is based on a literal lie, and millions of people have fallen for it. This is 1984 level shit.

Unless he’s referring to a different bunch of people who were demanding private healthcare for the UK. If those people exist then I have some news for them..

He must have missed the thousands of people protesting to save it as well.

Donald Trump tweets about UK healthcare system

Donald Trump tweets about UK healthcare system

Can he just fuck the fuck off? Chatting shit about our NHS while people in his own country go bankrupt paying ambulance and maternity fees

Nigel farage was on fox news this morning talkinh about... The NHS.

Fucking pathetic

Their argument is:

"Don't have a baby if you can't afford it"

But also:

"Don't abort your baby"

So, really it is:

"Don't have sex"

Jesus, can we all just take this Trump stuff as the time to accept that Farage isn't the well-intentioned non-racist eurosceptic he claims to be? He campaigned for Roy Moore for fuck's sake, why hasn't this whole country completely rejected him now? The mask's off now.

Man filmed pushing protesters at Rees-Mogg speech photographed partying in nazi uniform

Man filmed pushing protesters at Rees-Mogg speech photographed partying in nazi uniform
Man filmed pushing protesters at Rees-Mogg speech photographed partying in nazi uniform

The images are published here on the grounds of overwhelming public interest.

Lol.

https://i.imgur.com/HWeSS6T.jpg

They clearly aren't the same person, the hair and nose are completely different.

This is "Sandy Hook was an inside job" tier evidence.

Jesus. We’re digging up “dirt” on random citizens that step out of line now are we? Who gives a shit what fancy dress he’s chosen? Does anyone really think anything at all can be inferred from this?

Tax relief has become a gigantic welfare state for the well-off

Tax relief has become a gigantic welfare state for the well-off

Fundamentally inheritance tax is one of the very few wealth taxes we have. We need to have more taxation on wealth and less on income.

If you were to design a tax system that kept an existing group of wealthy people at the top and made it as hard as possible for others to get into that group, you would tax income heavily and not tax wealth at all.

And that's our tax system.

Well land would be a great place to start then, hey?

I don't see any reason to tax investment income differently to employment income. Particularly at a time when there is vast amounts of capital sloshing around.

I fully agree. It's essentially the perfect tax.

Months of ineptitude on the part of the "ultras" has gradually closed down the Brexit options available to the government – not that Mrs May needed any help in making a most inglorious mess on her own account

Months of ineptitude on the part of the "ultras" has gradually closed down the Brexit options ava...

Are we sure this website isn't eureferendumwatch? They're even using the phrase "ultras" now.

If they start using "cultists" it's definitely him.

I agree with you. FoM is not an essential component of free trade.

It is the EU who have chosen to make this indivisable from the single market.

There's no reason beyond realpolitik why we couldn't have a broad free trade deal without FoM.

FoM is not an essential component of free trade.

It is to a degree, but I'm not sure what degree that applies to any free trade deals we'd like from the EU.

People often talk about free trade of goods, in that you can ship your widget without tariffs, quotas and to a more invisible degree regulatory restrictions (you could sell electrical appliances without a plug in the UK until the EU said otherwise in 1992).

With regard to free movement of services, I suppose it means that a human surgeon should be able to practice in Italy as readily as he can in Sweden. This requires not just the standardisation of surgical standards and certificates, but also the ability to move said human labour freely. If it applies to surgeons, then it must also apply to Big Issue sellers (apparently).

This is my understanding, but it has holes in it you could drive a Working Time Directive regulated HGV vehicle through.

It’s high time archaic cannabis prohibition went up in smoke

It’s high time archaic cannabis prohibition went up in smoke
It’s high time archaic cannabis prohibition went up in smoke

high time

Stop it.

I agree, legalise and regulate all drugs.

It'll drastically reduce crime, overdoses and health issues.

Plus we can actually get honest drug education, rather than what I got at school which is "if you smoke skunk once, you'll OD on heroin within 5 years"

up in smoke

Right now.

The vast majority of "the rest of the world" has cannabis as being illegal. I agree that we need to move on medical cannabis but it's not a worldwide phenomena, not by a long shot.

Many graduates earn 'paltry returns' for their degree

Many graduates earn 'paltry returns' for their degree
Many graduates earn 'paltry returns' for their degree

That fine balance between a subject your enjoy and any potential jobs that can come of it. Criminal Science..lots of degrees for a finite number of roles!

Graduate salaries fell below average pension income for the first time ever recently.

You used to be able to get a working class job that paid well and took you into the middle classes - those all got replaced by zero hours deals where you get fired if you don't meet your targets, and meeting your targets requires pissing into bottles in your car or sleeping in tents outside of Amazon warehouses.

But it's ok, there's still social mobility available through higher education, and higher education is more accessible than ever, if you don't mind the £27,000-£63,000 debt that didn't use to be there. But now we're finding that's a lie too, the routes out of being poor are disappearing, while the super-rich take an ever bigger slice of the wealth (now 81%, up from 40% just a few years ago).

Something needs to change.

Degrees have been devalued significantly. Add in the addition of useless degrees and it looks sorrowful.

But this surely can't be called solely a 'pointless degree' problem.

Wage growth has stagnated. Kids who study teaching and nursing (the very opposite of a useless degree as it's a defined job and in demand) will come out with huge debt into low paying jobs.

Recruiters are sending teams to Ireland to get teachers yet wages here have continually fallen for a decade. It's almost paradoxical.

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