I wonder if this is one of those things where "Google" is run off solar and wind while it's subsidiaries are not.
Considering that they renamed the main company “Alphabet” you probably have a point.
Google's data centers would be the most energy intensive part of Alphabet i would assume.
It's all offset calculated really. There's no way to tell where the electrons coming in the wire to your home or business were generated unless you have your own generators and grid.
It just means they have built or bought the same level of solar and wind generation as they are using.
It basically says that Obama was an asshole and all the big companies pinky promise not to screw the consumers.
Yea I'm kind of getting tired of the "obama-era regulations" being a buzz word.
Of course they are... he's just another TrumpBot put in place to repeal anything Pres. Obama enacted so that it can look like Trump is accomplishing something and give his "business associates" more ways to make money off consumers.
It's also well-documented that the FCC was left with no other way to preserve net neutrality after a certain ISP screwed everything up.
So... Go away.
It's just addbook now anyway
I wonder what the post Facebook era will look like, we'll have to call people or speak with them in person to find out whats happening in their lives.
Good! I have managed to live without FB account. No need to make one now. 😅
Well this just looks like nonsense.
What definition of market share are they using?
It isn't just use, because Youtube is used by a lot more than 2% of social media users.
It must be "which do you use most heavily for social media functions?"
They aren't direct competitors. In fact they frequently complement each other. One user could easily use all of them. They aren't alternatives.
This doesn't really show anything. Until there are fully fledged competitors, Facebook's market share is virtually 100%. A person who doesn't use Facebook is very unlikely to be part of the market.
The last paragraph is a nice summary:
For those playing along at home, that's a government agency, pressed to support its attack on popular consumer protections with hard data, directing reporters to industry lobbyists. When informed that this data is largely misleading garbage manipulated for PR purposes, the FCC is only capable of shrugging. The fact that there's countless people that think this is ok makes it clear just how far down the post-truth rabbit hole we've fallen.
FCC lying for their own financial gain? Well I'll be damned.
If no net neutrality:ISP sells a connection that has unlimited data for http://www.motherfuckingwebsite.com/ I want to launch a competing service called http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ I launch my service and nobody visits because visiting my site counts against their data cap while visits to worse motherfuckingwebsite don't. My company declares bankruptcy, fuck barriers to market entry.
tldr: The FCC is about to kill net neutrality. We’re protesting NATIONWIDE on Dec 7th to stop them.
WHAT'S GOING ON?
Comcast, AT&T, Verizon and the National Cable & Telecommunications Association (NCTA) have spent $572 million on attempts to influence the FCC and other government agencies since 2008
Imagine if you couldn't view comments critical of Comcast on Reddit, Facebook, or YouTube while using Comcast internet. Want to use Netflix and not Hulu, you're on Comcast so it will be half as fast as it is now.
Net Neutrality is the basic idea that all Internet traffic should be treated equally. That means ISPs shouldn’t be allowed to block content or charge extra for faster speeds. Current rules implemented in 2015 prohibit this behavior and subject ISPs to utility-style regulations under Title II of the Communications Act of 1934.
The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) just announced its plan to slash net neutrality rules, allowing ISPs like Verizon to block apps, slow websites, and charge fees to control what you see & do online. They vote December 14th. People from across the political spectrum are outraged, so we’re planning to protest at Verizon retail stores across the country on December 7, one week before the vote and at the peak of the busy Holiday shopping season.
WHAT YOU CAN DO! #1
If you live nearby or can make it to DC, GO TO THE MARCH FOR NET NEUTRALITY December 7th. More info at https://www.reddit.com/sub/marchfornetneutrality
WHAT YOU CAN DO! #2
Protest in front of your local Verizon store. Go to http://www.verizonprotests.com/ for more info on the December 7th protests near you! Feet on the ground, show your support for net neutrality.
WHAT YOU CAN DO! #3
If you're using Comcast, AT&T, or Verizon SWITCH YOUR CARRIER (if you can). Comment on their Twitter feeds, tell them why you're leaving, blow up social media. These companies have spent millions lobbying to influence the government and gain more control of what and how you use the internet.
WHAT YOU CAN DO! #4
Playtime is over. Spread this message, talk with a friend, call your representative, do SOMETHING. If net neutrality is changed any actions now can help the appeal lawyers of the future. Don't sit on the sidelines, this is America, let your voice and opinion be expressed. Let others know how important this issue is.
WHAT’S HAPPENING? The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) just announced its plan to slash net neutrality rules, allowing ISPs like Verizon to block apps, slow websites, and charge fees to control what you see & do online. They vote December 14th. People from across the political spectrum are outraged, so we’re planning to protest at Verizon retail stores across the country on December 7, one week before the vote and at the peak of the busy Holiday shopping season. We'll demand that our members of Congress take action to stop Verizon's puppet FCC from killing net neutrality.
WHAT’S NET NEUTRALITY? Net neutrality is the basic principle that has made the Internet into what it is today. It prevents big Internet Service Providers (like Verizon) from charging extra fees, engaging in censorship, or controlling what we see and do on the web by throttling websites, apps, and online services.
WHY VERIZON STORES? The new chairman of the FCC, Ajit Pai, is a former top lawyer for Verizon, and the company has been spending millions on lobbying and lawsuits to kill net neutrality so they can gauge us all for more money. By protesting at Verizon stores, we’re shining light on the corruption and demanding that our local do something about it. Only Congress has the power to stop Verizon's puppet FCC, so at the protests we'll be calling and tweeting at legislators, and in cities where it's possible we'll march from Verizon stores to lawmakers offices.
WHAT ARE OUR DEMANDS? Ajit Pai is clearly still working for Verizon, not the public. But he still has to answer to Congress. So we’re calling on our lawmakers to do their job overseeing the FCC and speak out against Ajit Pai’s plan to gut Title II net neutrality protections and give Verizon and other giant ISPs everything on their holiday wishlist.
HOW CAN I JOIN? Click here http://www.verizonprotests.com/ and you’ll find an interactive map where you can see if there is already a protest planned near you. If not, you can sign up to host one, and we’ll send you materials to make it easy and help you recruit others in your area. These protests will be quick, fun, and 100% legal. If you can’t attend a protest on December 7th, you can still help defend net neutrality by calling your lawmakers and spreading the word on social media. You can also sign up to host a meeting with your members of Congress, or volunteer for our texting team to help turn people out for these protests.
Internet service providers have a history of not playing nice or keeping their promises.
ISPs pocketed 200 billion when they promised to install fiber optic to every household. They didn't and kept the money. Http://reddit.com/sub/explainlikeimfive/comments/6c5e97/eli5_how_were_isps_able_to_pocket_the_200...
Comcast quietly backs out on its promises for keeping net neutrality https://www.reddit.com/sub/politics/comments/7fwugt/comcast_quietly_drops_promise_not_to_charge_t...
These big ISPs are currently set up and not competing with each other's areas. They are oligopolies. They do this so they don't have competition. Some towns decided to try to provide internet to their respective towns, but are being legally slowed by these major ISP companies. Is your area supposed to get Google fiber but it still hasn't come yet? Same thing. These companies don't want competition so they are doing everything they can to make the process of competitors entering their territory as difficult as possible.
"OK but would these companies actually do what you're saying?" Are you seriously going to trust these companies to NOT do everything they can to make a buck? Of course if they have the power they are going to use every sneaky tactic they can, and that includes ONLY showing you how great their service is on the internet when you use their service. Or what about if some other agency wants to come along and do the same? You could literally "remove" that scandalous picture from the internet if you bribe the ISPs enough. Some politician getting a bad rap?
What if during the next election ISPs slowed down the website of the candidate they don't like to a crawl, and blocked websites being outraged at such an act. Then when the customer decides to switch carriers they don't have the option because there's only one service provider in their area.
Currently, legally they can't do that. In the future the option would be there. THAT'S why this discussion and net neutrality is so important.
If the ISPs were regulated like a utility (they should be) We wouldn't be having any of these issues.
The internet has provided some wonderful innovative and given the power of education and communication to the masses. Whatever your viewpoint is on a subject you can express it and find others who express the same. Repealing net neutrality is like going back on time, instead of seeing the information you want, your stuck with the information that's presented to you.
It's "no big deal" because you can pay the ISP extra if you want Bit Torrent. Just like how you currently have to pay extra for Internet service if you don't subscribe to TV service along with it, even though you never wanted TV service in the first place.
Such is life in a corporatocracy. After NN is gone, I wonder what AT&T will do to Google Voice.
It's like Ajit has made massive insider deals with all of these companies and knows his livelihood and that of his family will turn to dust unless this passes. He's resorting to deflection, lies, and mockery in the attempt to tread water, but he has to be the most hated person on the internet right now outside of Martin Shkreli and whoever sinful person designed the newest cheeseburger emoji.
says the guy "philisophically" posting on the internet. You will still use it every day, even with the barriers. That's the problem, this is becoming a necessary tool/resource for interacting and communicating in daily life.
Even jobs that don't use or require the internet generally require an internet connection to check in with HR, etc.
That's why we need to keep it FREE and OPEN.
He's gonna have issues if it passes too. People are pissed about this. Putting signs up near his house.
Maybe he should stop going against 75% of American citizens.
Like Jamie Dimon portraying Bitcoin as a bad investment and faulty tech, while simultaneously investing more than any other firm. The thing about a mostly transparent world is now companies, when hypocritical, are easily revealed.
Unfortunately there's not much to do about it but vote, get involved with your local gov, and work to spread the message.
It's a transparent world because we have unadulterated access to Information on the internet... which would go away if net neutrality went away.
Comcast would completely collapse if it were ever exposed to the consequences of a free-market. Which is why they work so hard to make sure the market isn't free and to try to prevent competitors from even getting off the ground.
If we had alternatives Comcast would be boycotted so much harder than EA.
Yea, they want to control access to information and control the narrative. Scary stuff. We really are headed for 1984 territory potentially.
I say destroy these companies and make Internet a public utility like water and energy. Companies like AT&T and Comcast serve essentially no purpose for the country besides leeching our money for a cheap service that anyone with some infrastructure could provide. They are anti-American parasites.
I wonder if Twitter will make users pay to see Trump's tweets? It would be funny.
The age of Trump has destroyed any foundation the word fact ever held. From the day Spicer claimed that the inauguration crowd was the largest in history the expectation that the government would be held accountable for presenting factual information went out the window. The PRESIDENT, almost daily, presents his aspects of fantasy worldview as fact and because there has never been enough time to hold him accountable before he says something else, we have never had the chance.
This is how the FCC has gotten away with not acknowledging that millions of obviously botted comments.
The government has gotten away with this because the press has been increasingly delegitimized by partisan bias since the sunsetting of the fairness doctrine.
We are fucked.
Write the FCC members directly here (Fill their inbox)Name Email Twitter Title Party Ajit Pai Ajit.Pai@fcc.gov @AjitPaiFCC Chairman R Michael O'Rielly Mike.ORielly@fcc.gov @MikeOFCC Commissioner R Brendan Carr Brendan.Carr@fcc.gov @BrendanCarrFCC Commissioner R Mignon Clyburn Mignon.Clyburn@fcc.gov @MClyburnFCC Commissioner D Jessica Rosenworcel Jessica.Rosenworcel@fcc.gov @JRosenworcel Commissioner D
Add a comment to the repeal here (and here's an easier URL you can use thanks to John Oliver)
You can also use this to help you contact your house and congressional reps. It's easy to use and cuts down on the transaction costs with writing a letter to your reps
You can support groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the ACLU and Free Press who are fighting to keep Net Neutrality:https://www.eff.org/ https://www.aclu.org/ https://www.freepress.net/ https://www.fightforthefuture.org/ https://www.publicknowledge.org/ https://www.demandprogress.org/
Also check this out, which was made by the EFF and is a low transaction cost tool for writing all your reps in one fell swoop.
Most importantly, VOTE. This should not be something that is so clearly split between the political parties as it affects all Americans, but unfortunately it is.
Sadly, a bunch of them probably would.
I look forward to the great Reddit Migration to India in the coming days.
ISP License terms should be updated to be clear that discrimination of content (speed, blocking, preferential treatment) should not be allowed.
ISPs should be disallowed from any paid preferential "fast lane" agreements.
"Specialized services" are exempted, but ONLY if they aren't similar to publicly available Internet access services.
CDNs are exempted (expected this).
A committee with representation from ISPs, civil society, academics and consumer groups must be created to make recommendations related to Net Neutrality. This body will investigate Net Neutrality violations and develop technical standards to detect them.
While these recommendations are in consideration, TRAI reserves the right to regulate ISPs with regard to Net Neutrality within their powers.
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Edit: We Indian's have fought tooth and nail to protect Net Neutrality in India. We also fought against Facebook which wanted to provide their version of "Internet" to the masses. if you look back at those threads you would find people questioning as why Indian's were against Facebook's plan of providing free "internet". the general theme was that it will take decades for Indian government to connect them, by utilizing facebook the government could potentially connect the whole population. In the end, the government due to public pressure stopped facebook. People laughed here at our stupidity for refusing facebook's generosity.
Well, as it turns out India will have 100% connectivity within few years and it won't be your shitty facebook version. they will be connected through optical fiber network. 250,000-gram panchayats(village level administrative units) will be connected. the first phase is already complete connecting 120,000-gram panchayats. 267,000 KM of cable was laid in the first phase, it might take 1 million KM of cable for the whole project. \ rant
Go figure, the world's largest democracy acting like.... a democracy
During an interview Monday on “Fox & Friends,” viewers were shown cardboard signs that host Steve Doocy said were put up at Pai's home in suburban Virginia. One sign, appearing to refer to Pai's children, read: “They will come to know the truth. Dad murdered Democracy in cold blood.”
That doesn't really constitute harassment, does it?
Nor is it a threat, it's a statement of fact. Do Americans have problems with statements of fact?
Maybe their dad shouldn’t be such a flaming pecker-head.
Shut down Netflix, Amazon, Twitter, Reddit, Google for one day. Just one day and see how many people take notice. Because that's what will effectively happen if we allow these rules to be repealed. It's great that these companies speak out against the FCC, but I want them to put their money where their mouth is. Right now, people just don't understand or even care. But they will when this happens. We have to make them understand.
I appreciate the effort being put forth here and accept it on good faith. However, . .WHEN THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE IS CLEAR AND OBVIOUS, YET THE ONLY REAL HOPE THAT WILL HAS OF BEING UPHELD IS FOR THAT WILL TO BE CHAMPIONED BY WEALTHY INSTITUTIONS, SOMETHING IS DRASTICALLY WRONG WITH THE STRUCTURE OF GOVERNMENT.
That would also bring attention to the people who know nothing about it. A great way to invoke the collective power about half of American stay-at-home moms.
Shutdown amazon and Google? That will bring down vast majority of the internet.