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The Rat Race: Ascension to the Throne!

The Rat Race: Ascension to the Throne!The RaT Race - Ascension to the Throne

 

The RaT Race is back, bigger than ever!

 

Put yourself in the RaT Race here

 

If you're not familiar with the event, here's what you need to know.

 

Players race to hit Legend as soon as the current season's Standard ladder ranks reset The RaT Race entry fee is $10 through the Matcherino event page Entry fees are distributed to the top three players Anyone can join the Race!

 

NEW THIS RACE

Players can compete in-person at Esports Arena for a bonus $10,000 prize!

 

RaT Race Prize Pools

 

In-Person Prize Pool

All players are invited to compete in the RaT Race in-person at the Esports Arena, Santa Ana location. The first player to hit the Legend rank, or the highest ranked player after 24 hours, will win $10,000!

 

Online Prize Pool

The first three players to hit the Legend rank after the September season resets win a portion of the prize pool. This prize pool is available to all competitors and will grow based on player participation and community contributions through Matcherino.

 

1st Place 2nd Place 3rd Place 50% 30% 20%

 

RaT Race Stream

 

Frodan will be at the venue hosting the official RaT Race stream on the Esports Arena Twitch channel.

 

All competitors will be streaming their race to Legend on their own channels.

 

RaT Race Invited Players

 

8 invited players will compete in-person at the Esports Arena playing alongside all other competitors who show up to the arena and those racing online.

 

Invited Player Stream Link Amnesiac amnesia_sc Chakki chakki_hs Reynad reynad27 To Be Announced To Be Announced To Be Announced To Be Announced To Be Announced

 

RaT Race Rules

 

Players enter the RaT Race on the Americas server Anyone can enter as long as they register and have their entry fee paid before 11:59 PM PDT on September 30th Players must stream their Race to Legend and include "RaT Race" in their stream title

 

RaT Race Social

 

RaT Race competitors and viewers are welcome to join the RaT Race Discord server.

Follow the #RaTRace on the dedicated Twitter account for player updates!

 

Complete list of undocumented changes from Patch 9.1

Complete list of undocumented changes from Patch 9.1
Complete list of undocumented changes from Patch 9.1

This post will be updated as new information becomes available. I'd list all of it right away, but it's...you know...undocumented.

 

Undocumented Changes . . .

 

Community Confusion

"[[Auctionmaster Beardo]] - Beardo + Coin refreshes hero power immediately." This has always been the process. The confusion comes from a bug encountered when attempting to use Auctionmaster Beardo alongside Nozdormu. (Thank you /u/ThunderThomas for the information)

"[[Unlicensed Apothecary]] - If you use Evolve and Unlicensed Apothecary is summoned as a byproduct, UA no longer damages you for 5 damage for every other minion summoned via Evolve." This was always the case. When using Thrall Deathseer, UA will still damage you for each other minion summoned. (Thank you /u/tankup for bringing this post to my attention.)

"[[Xaril, Poisoned Mind]] - New animation when giving you Toxin cards." Turns out, upon further review, the animation has not been changed. At least, not with this most recent patch. (Thank you /u/SmogogoD for bringing video to my attention.)

 

Edit: Due to additional information provided by the community, I have separated this post into two categories. Some interactions that we thought were changes turned out to be misinformation or plain misremembering. If you see anything incorrect, please provide citation in the form of some video evidence.

 

Edit #2: I must reiterate...if there is an undocumented change that you would like to share you must have something concrete other than "I think it used to be this way..." A before & after would be helpful...or anything at all that would constitute evidence.

 

Conclusion: Operating under the assumption that any undocumented changes would have been found by now (I understand it's still too early to call it)...it seems as though Blizzard upheld their end of the bargain and have documented everything that has changed. As I said before, if you have any legitimate undocumented changes that you can present with evidence I'm happy to adjust accordingly. If nothing is produced...then we have to give credit where credit is due. Thanks, Brode Team 5.

The apothecary one is still really strange to me. There was a massive discussion a couple days ago about how Apothecary did not activate from spell-based summons/transforms, like evolve, but did activate from minion-based summons, like Thrall. Was that entire thread just flat out false, and evolve has procced Apothecary this whole time?

just to confirm, it still activates on DK Guldan, right? Given the text it still should.

Unlicensed wasn't changed, it only triggers off Thrall, and it still triggers.

also makes bane of doom blow dick

I lost against druid because Innervate was nerfed

I lost against druid because Innervate was nerfedShadowreaper is so close
I lost against druid because Innervate was nerfed

Pretty hilarious to be honest

And you guys said that Priest wasn't being nerfed...

At this point, priest is nerfed whenever any other class is nerfed.

Northshire heal into pint-size/horror for the clear? That's gotta be the play!

Can someone please explain this spaghetti to me?

Can someone please explain this spaghetti to me?http://puu.sh/xDo7e.jpg

There was never a Happy Ghoul anywhere in this game.
Can someone please explain this spaghetti to me?

There was never a Happy Ghoul anywhere in this game.

It is take your child to work day for the ghoul infestor.

The buff UI needed

Deal 266 damage. Gain 266 Armor. Draw 266 cards. Summon a 266/266 Ghoul.

his child's pretty swole tbh

It seems like everyday somebody asks about a quick version of Hearthstone where turn timers are decreased so since it isn't common knowledge: Ben Brode confirmed it.

It seems like everyday somebody asks about a quick version of Hearthstone where turn timers are decreased so since it isn't common knowledge: Ben Brode confirmed it.

In a fairly recent PCGamer interview in June Ben Brode was asked a couple of questions. One of the questions was:

PCGAMER: Will you ever implement a speed version of Hearthstone where the rope starts burning immediately?

BEN BRODE: Yes.

Now he didn't really provide any specifics as to when that feature may arrive but the most important thing is knowing that Team 5 acknowledged the demand and is planning on delivering.

Honestly, when reading the interview it felt odd to see Ben Brode just coldheartedly confirm it instead of unboxing his radar but there wasnt really much for room confusion in the question.

This was shortly before his AMA and I did ask him to confirm it again there but didnt't get a response.

Edit:

I was informed by /u/Superuai that MKTV, a Brazilian outlet, had an interview with Ben Brode recently as well where he talks a little more (or actually less) about Blitz Mode. In the Interview (No worries, there is a video at the very bottom of the page and thats in English, skip to 12:05) he seems to use a bunch of PR speak and only points to internal discussions and what challenges they face with more modes.

Really excited to play this when it comes out on 2019 ;D

That's an optimistic estimate.

2021, I summon an even bigger year.

Does team 5 know that other games can usually implement ideas quicker than a couple years after having the idea.

Hearthstone Update 9.1 September 18

Hearthstone Update 9.1 September 18
Hearthstone Update 9.1 September 18

No more coining out Hex on turn 2 to shut down my river croc plays, hearthstone is saved.

And now judgement day is upon /rhearthstone.

Will the bad balance circle jerk be right, or will this actually bring druid back down to the pack.

Will Priest be the new druid?

We will know in a few hours.

Goodbye my golden warleader friend, goodbye.

Time to finally dust those extra 7 Spreading Plagues. Going to be a rich man with my 700 dust!

Patch is live on NA

Patch is live on NA

I just patched and saw the changes on log in.

Anyone just get 100g from a "Thar be booty" something

Asia server yes. NA server no. Wait for Sept. 19?

I didnt :(

This happens every patch and is mentioned in the announcement by Blizz. Mobile takes longer due to app store approvals.

Balance Patch 9.1 is up in EU!

Balance Patch 9.1 is up in EU!

Can you still summon EVEN LARGER GREEN MAN?

On mobile it's not tho. Does it mean the game is not cross-platform? Have I been living a lie?

Let the PriestStone begin.

It is, you can play pc vs phone, just that you got matched against people with the same version.

Amnesiac thoughts on maturity, Purple, his loss, support from fans, HCT problems and more

Amnesiac thoughts on maturity, Purple, his loss, support from fans, HCT problems and moreAmnesiac streamed after getting back from the tournament and answered questions from chat about everything that happened. You can watch the VoD here or read some of the main points below. Since people usually talk more about his personality and past comments, I thought it was interesting to share this. You can see how he changed from his first appearances and he also highlights some of the HCT problems discussed by other pro players recently, like single elimination and the venue issues.



Overall feelings, maturity, Muzzy, desire to compete and support


I'm not done, I thought for a while after my match, I even messaged Chakki and I'm like "I don't know if I can compete anymore, this is awful" and I kinda read through my Twitter and stuff to see what people were saying and I was like 'I don't really have that bad'. For some reason I have a large passion for competition in this videogame. I had a very very good year and specially this tournament I am very proud of how I played, it's nothing for me to hang my head over. The game doesn't suck because I played better than whichever person...it doesn't matter to me anymore, I think I matured on the topic. How can I say the game sucks, it's something I'm passionate about, something that's giving me opportunities that I wouldn't have in any other capacity, you can't say the game sucks, that's just not the case. I have no regrets about that tournament. I won't make the last call, Muzzy will make it and I'm super happy for him aswell, it's great to see Muzzy doing well.

It meant a lot more than I expected, to see everybody who is subscribed, in chat cheering me on, that was very cool for me, I always had this, let's go with, controversial role, but to see people who genuinely wanted me to do well that was a very cool experience and I'm very grateful. It really did bring a smile to my face to see the support after I lost.


Single elimination system


I think that the fact it just cuts to top 8 and it's single elimination is very disingenuous to people who worked hard to qualify for top 8, it feels your success is very invalidated as a result. It takes 7 rounds of play and boils it into, no matter how favored you think you are, something along the lines of a coin flip, and I think that's miserable. As a competitor to know that about your system is kinda disheartening, I'm not gonna lie, I think that's a major flaw in the system and needs to be changed and addressed.


HCT venue


Our venue was really bad though. So the day 1 I'll say our admins were great and the people there were great, loved the people. The people were so sad that the venue didn't work out, the people who own it. They worried about all that, so that obviously sucked for them, and the admins I had were great, they knew how to do their job, everything went smoothly with them, it wasn't the people involved, I don't blame them, but I will say that it's not particularly acceptable that we were at a venue that didn't have stable Internet, I feel like it's not an okay standard to have, so that was a bummer. Our Internet was bad, there were a lot of issues that came up around it but this is a problem spanning across HCT for a while so it's not unique to me it's just that this time I have more anecdotal evidence that it happened and I have more personal attachment because it happened to friends of mine. 

After we played our last round of swiss today and we went to top 8 they were like 'oh, the Internet is way too bad here to play top 8, we're gonna go to a LAN center with wired Internet that is 15 minutes away' and I'm like 'why didn't we just go there just initially?' this place just existed and the place we went to is so nice, it had 15 setups, could easily fit everybody, it had good wireless Internet, it had great wired Internet, it was quiet, it wasn't a fucking bar. It had everything you could need, it was perfect, it was a great venue. Why didn't we start with that? It was very ridiculous to me, I understand that there are a lot of moving parts at Blizzard, and that's not necessarily anyone's job but that's not an acceptable thing and they know that, but it keeps happening. Generally there's been improvement for HCT steadily but I'd say that this preliminary was certainly a step back in quality, which I was disappointed in, and I'll also say I was not affected but these problems at all, for some reason my Internet was just good, I never got meaningfully DCed from any game, never had to re-game, my Internet was just fine but obviously that's not good enough, we shouldn't be having to re-game things because the Internet doesn't work at the fucking video game tournament.


Lack of replay feature


It's also not a hard issue to resolve with disconnects, League and StarCraft are capable of saving game states, right? So, it can't be harder in Hearthstone than it's in League and StarCraft, it's cards, the game state is pretty binary, so I would imagine, at least I would speculate that it's probably not that hard and I'd like that to be something they do because it would significantly improve the disconnect situation.


Tournament admins


The head admins of Blizzard, they are the people who receive the screenshots from venues about games and they are looking at it like, they literally don't know how Hearthstone works and it's not acceptable that they are the people who have that position, like one dude, it's turn 6, it's Flo's game, Lyra on board, 28 life, one card in hand from Pirate Warrior, DC and the admin literally goes 'well I don't see lethal, I guess it's a re-game, we can't conclude anything here', it's like dude, there's a point where this gets ridiculous, I don't know how to resolve that but that's not an acceptable circumstance to happen. Just have a panel with 5 competent people and if you don't have a conclusive yes on everything then re-game it.


Purple's win and attitude


I'm happy for Purple. I think it's fine to have some personality but given that Purple didn't bring a very good line-up or play particularly well I don't know if it was the great place to put it out, but I think it's good that people are having personality, but I mean, he made it sound like he was Jesus. There were multiple games that he could've won and he didn't, but that's not really important, I think overall it's a good thing that people are showing any amount of personality, that's probably just good.
Amnesiac thoughts on maturity, Purple, his loss, support from fans, HCT problems and more

Amnesiac streamed after getting back from the tournament and answered questions from chat about everything that happened. You can watch the VoD here or read some of the main points below. Since people usually talk more about his personality and past comments, I thought it was interesting to share this. You can see how he changed from his first appearances and he also highlights some of the HCT problems discussed by other pro players recently, like single elimination and the venue issues.

Overall feelings, maturity, Muzzy, desire to compete and support

I'm not done, I thought for a while after my match, I even messaged Chakki and I'm like "I don't know if I can compete anymore, this is awful" and I kinda read through my Twitter and stuff to see what people were saying and I was like 'I don't really have that bad'. For some reason I have a large passion for competition in this videogame. I had a very very good year and specially this tournament I am very proud of how I played, it's nothing for me to hang my head over. The game doesn't suck because I played better than whichever person...it doesn't matter to me anymore, I think I matured on the topic. How can I say the game sucks, it's something I'm passionate about, something that's giving me opportunities that I wouldn't have in any other capacity, you can't say the game sucks, that's just not the case. I have no regrets about that tournament. I won't make the last call, Muzzy will make it and I'm super happy for him aswell, it's great to see Muzzy doing well.

It meant a lot more than I expected, to see everybody who is subscribed, in chat cheering me on, that was very cool for me, I always had this, let's go with, controversial role, but to see people who genuinely wanted me to do well that was a very cool experience and I'm very grateful. It really did bring a smile to my face to see the support after I lost.

Single elimination system

I think that the fact it just cuts to top 8 and it's single elimination is very disingenuous to people who worked hard to qualify for top 8, it feels your success is very invalidated as a result. It takes 7 rounds of play and boils it into, no matter how favored you think you are, something along the lines of a coin flip, and I think that's miserable. As a competitor to know that about your system is kinda disheartening, I'm not gonna lie, I think that's a major flaw in the system and needs to be changed and addressed.

HCT venue

Our venue was really bad though. So the day 1 I'll say our admins were great and the people there were great, loved the people. The people were so sad that the venue didn't work out, the people who own it. They worried about all that, so that obviously sucked for them, and the admins I had were great, they knew how to do their job, everything went smoothly with them, it wasn't the people involved, I don't blame them, but I will say that it's not particularly acceptable that we were at a venue that didn't have stable Internet, I feel like it's not an okay standard to have, so that was a bummer. Our Internet was bad, there were a lot of issues that came up around it but this is a problem spanning across HCT for a while so it's not unique to me it's just that this time I have more anecdotal evidence that it happened and I have more personal attachment because it happened to friends of mine.

After we played our last round of swiss today and we went to top 8 they were like 'oh, the Internet is way too bad here to play top 8, we're gonna go to a LAN center with wired Internet that is 15 minutes away' and I'm like 'why didn't we just go there just initially?' this place just existed and the place we went to is so nice, it had 15 setups, could easily fit everybody, it had good wireless Internet, it had great wired Internet, it was quiet, it wasn't a fucking bar. It had everything you could need, it was perfect, it was a great venue. Why didn't we start with that? It was very ridiculous to me, I understand that there are a lot of moving parts at Blizzard, and that's not necessarily anyone's job but that's not an acceptable thing and they know that, but it keeps happening. Generally there's been improvement for HCT steadily but I'd say that this preliminary was certainly a step back in quality, which I was disappointed in, and I'll also say I was not affected but these problems at all, for some reason my Internet was just good, I never got meaningfully DCed from any game, never had to re-game, my Internet was just fine but obviously that's not good enough, we shouldn't be having to re-game things because the Internet doesn't work at the fucking video game tournament.

Lack of replay feature

It's also not a hard issue to resolve with disconnects, League and StarCraft are capable of saving game states, right? So, it can't be harder in Hearthstone than it's in League and StarCraft, it's cards, the game state is pretty binary, so I would imagine, at least I would speculate that it's probably not that hard and I'd like that to be something they do because it would significantly improve the disconnect situation.

Tournament admins

The head admins of Blizzard, they are the people who receive the screenshots from venues about games and they are looking at it like, they literally don't know how Hearthstone works and it's not acceptable that they are the people who have that position, like one dude, it's turn 6, , Lyra on board, 28 life, one card in hand from Pirate Warrior, DC and the admin literally goes 'well I don't see lethal, I guess it's a re-game, we can't conclude anything here', it's like dude, there's a point where this gets ridiculous, I don't know how to resolve that but that's not an acceptable circumstance to happen. Just have a panel with 5 competent people and if you don't have a conclusive yes on everything then re-game it.

Purple's win and attitude

I'm happy for Purple. I think it's fine to have some personality but given that Purple didn't bring a very good line-up or play particularly well I don't know if it was the great place to put it out, but I think it's good that people are having personality, but I mean, he made it sound like he was Jesus. There were multiple games that he could've won and he didn't, but that's not really important, I think overall it's a good thing that people are showing any amount of personality, that's probably just good.

I think his comments on Purple show just how unaware he is of his own arrogance and immaturity. His commentary videos are far worse than Purple's mulligan comment.

It is fine to analyze other players' misplays but his videos have historically been way over the top in terms of insulting other competitors rather than explaining why a particular choice was suboptimal or "wrong".

I can't watch his stream because of his attitude but has he ever analyzed his own misplays? Amnesiac comes across as fodder for /sub/iamverysmart

Yeah, the lack of replay feature cant be repeated enough.

Hearthstone is so fucking slow with this, things like more deckslots or the rank caps there basicly suggested after the start. We waited more than 2 years for them, now we waited another year and still no tournament mode/replay features.

This came immediately after he joked that "He plays pirates turn one, you go coin golakka into golakka. No luck involved; pure skill."

Purple was obviously joking, that clip just starts after he ironically pointed out that the play was a longshot and he could only make the play because he got lucky.

It is fine to analyze other players' misplays but his videos have historically been way over the top in terms of insulting other competitors rather than explaining why a particular choice was suboptimal or "wrong".

He did the same last night by ripping players who brought Hunter, saying it was just "wrong". The win rate and success of those who brought it made it seem good to me. Orange and RDU felt Hunter was under-represented and praised those who brought it, and the results backed up their prediction. So you've got to elaborate on that more rather than implying players who brought it made a bad choice but were lucky when the only sample that matters looked pretty solid.

Toast's client randomly crashes.

Toast's client randomly crashes.

His client HCT'ed.

Should be a rematch.

That same bug happens to me when I finish my Hunter quest with an empty hand on turn 6, and then hero power.

Did he get to replay the game?

Try one of these subthreads