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Bennelong by-election: Liberal John Alexander will win Bennelong by-election, Antony Green predicts

Bennelong by-election: Liberal John Alexander will win Bennelong by-election, Antony Green predicts
Bennelong by-election: Liberal John Alexander will win Bennelong by-election, Antony Green predicts

Very disappointing result.

Not so much that Alexander is some monstrosity, but this enables Turnbull to protect a potentially illegitimate government from High Court referrals by virtue of numbers in the House.

I'll add, congrats to KK for making a fight of it. I get the feeling we'll be seeing more of her shortly.

Barnaby winning wasn't a "Massive" victory. It was expected. These two byelections have happened in two very safe Liberal seats. And there has been a significant swing to Labor in today's election. Just not enough to take the seat.

If he did that, he would be a fool. You go to a by-election recontesting as the existing local member asking for another chance after being careless over the Constitution. Despite a by-election swing, you get a second chance and you decide to piss it away at the the next election - voters would be furious.

This is the 2nd massive win for Turnbull as much as this sub would like to pretend its not.

No one gives a shit about newspolls when we have had 2 bi-elections now without any major swing to Labor.

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Bennelong Byelection Live Thread

Bennelong Byelection Live Thread

Thought we should have a place to discuss as results come in.

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Labor has a chance to win and if they do the LNP lose their majority.

It'll be interesting to see what happens if the libs just hold the seat. I guess just as interesting will be whether labor wins. If the libs win comfortably it'll be a bit concerning. Considering how shit the libs have been in gov, if there isn't a huge swing it'll be very surprising!

I think he'll scrape in, at which point both sides will act like they won.

Congratulations to Mitchell Marsh for scoring his first ever 100 in test cricket

Congratulations to Mitchell Marsh for scoring his first ever 100 in test cricket

Proving his sceptics wrong, M. Marsh has scored his maiden test hundred in the 3rd Ashes test of this year.

But record attendance and participation can

Yet it's been popular for over 100 years... Those must be some very old people. As long as there is passion for the game (which I assure you, there always will be, cricket wont dIe out

T20 will help get the new fans and some of those will makes their way over to watching 1 dayers and tests (TBH I pretty much only pay attention to T20 and tests now)

Second only to lawn bowls

Former Barnaby Joyce lawyer Bret Walker SC appointed to head 'water theft' royal commission

Former Barnaby Joyce lawyer Bret Walker SC appointed to head 'water theft' royal commission
Former Barnaby Joyce lawyer Bret Walker SC appointed to head 'water theft' royal commission

If you're suggesting that Bret Walker is in any way friendly to the LNP, you obviously have no idea who he is. The LNP has equally strong grounds to complain about bias on his part - but they won't, because presumably they realise that barristers take briefs wherever they come from, and the identity of their clients is no indication whatsoever of their political allegiances.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/furious-terrorism-watchdog-demands-apology-...

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/bret-walker-sc-to-represent-former-prime-minister-kev...

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/turnbull-government-at-threat-as-labor-plan...

https://www.crikey.com.au/2014/06/19/walker-attacks-abolition-of-security-law-oversight-as-change...

https://newmatilda.com/2015/07/24/revoking-citizenship-will-not-make-us-safer-says-bret-walker-sc/

Important to note that this appoint is by Weatherill.

That's a pretty bizarre choice of headline. Is it meant to suggest some sort of bias?

Barristers as prominent as Walker end up representing all sorts of clients, and if you specialise in constitutional law, you're likely to end up representing clients on all sides of politics eventually. He indeed recently represented Joyce in the citizenship case, but he's also currently representing a Labor candidate challenging Nationals MP David Gillespie under a different part of s 44. Earlier this year he represented the Liberal-dominated Woollahra Council arguing against Labor council mergers, while last year he prepared a brief of advice for Clover Moore's Sydney Council government exposing the potential for business interests to stack the council voting roll there. A couple of years ago he represented K Rudd in relation to the Libs' pink batts crusade. He's had a long history of representing bikies, as in this example from earlier this year challenging Dutton's use of migration powers. These are just some easily found examples, there are plenty more available if you're curious.

Sigh.

Today is a good day to remind #auspol of the abysmal quality of journalism that @australian and #PaulKelly are responsible for. The Australian should apologise to its readers and especially the victims of abuse.

Today is a good day to remind #auspol of the abysmal quality of journalism that @australian and #...

This is the same media empire which published photos of that poor little boy, Julian Cadman's dead body in Barcelona + a description of what he was last seen wearing on the day to compare, before he had officially been identified.

News Corp + all it's subsidiaries are the definition of gutter journalism.

I really have no words for this. These are the types of people that politics is the only thing that matter. Forget about policy. Like Trump pulling out all stops to support an alleged paedophile only for his support in the senate to pass legislation. People see right through it though and reject it. Thank goodness we still have a bit of good sense in this country. Disgraceful.

Let's not forget the phone hacking scandal in the UK, which included deleting voice mails from a dead teen, which gave her parents the false sense that she was still alive.

The entire Mudrake family are pure scum.

WTF. just disgusting

Sydney policewoman jailed for pulling rank to avoid RBT

Sydney policewoman jailed for pulling rank to avoid RBT
Sydney policewoman jailed for pulling rank to avoid RBT

She wept in the dock on Friday as Judge Christopher Hoy sentenced her to 16 months in jail with a non-parole period of 12 months.

Holy shit. I'm glad abuse of power carries high sentences.

I'm really glad I live in a country where police officers are properly punished for abusing power, unlike 'murica

I had this judge for the trial in which I got called up for jury duty. He takes things very seriously, which is good.

He also likes to eat frozen yogurts (which I call frogurt) during every recess a trial has. That's bad.

Australian universities accused of sharing military technology with China

Australian universities accused of sharing military technology with China
Australian universities accused of sharing military technology with China

Wow, how fast the world changed, I remembered not too long ago, the rest of the world take pride in setting up manufacturing (hence technology transfer) in China, some even proudly announce their "achievement", including some very large technology advance companies from U.S.A.

So what had changed?

Yeah it is pretty funny. The US has done more than anyone to build up China's manufacturing base and hence their military capability.

But honestly this just sounds like one crank having a whinge.

I can’t tell if you’re a chinease shill or just really hate the West. A lot of your post history is very pro China.

I am doing work with the Chinese Torch innovation program. It has funded EVERY large Chinese company. The first Torch Centre in Australia is at [UNSW](torch.unsw.edu.au).

All technology is 'duel usage', such as signals processing, material science and AI etc.

I personally despise the CCP as it hurts China. The corruption and lawlessness will result in China having a civil war rather than become rich. But it is still about 1/6 of humanity and Australia's largest trading partner.

Australia and other Western universities will co-operate with Chinese and Russian universities because that is what they do.

A historical fact, the USSR found out about the militarisation of Atomic research in 1940 as Russian scientists noticed that there was not a single academic paper published on the subject for six months and told the NKVD (pre-KGB)

Australian Government Wants To Punish Whistleblowers And Journalists Who Leak Classified Documents With Up To 20 Years In Prison

Australian Government Wants To Punish Whistleblowers And Journalists Who Leak Classified Documents With Up To 20 Years In Prison
Australian Government Wants To Punish Whistleblowers And Journalists Who Leak Classified Document...

George Orwell said, "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act"

That sounds fucking scary.

Why the fuck does it seem like fascism is on the rise everywhere? Like the idea that being a whistleblower makes you a traitor.

Australians all let us rejoice for we are young and <REDACTED>

or we could not do that, I like the idea of not doing that

HUNDREDS of youths have allegedly bashed and robbed tourists amid a series of wild brawls on Melbourne’s St Kilda’s foreshore this morning.

HUNDREDS of youths have allegedly bashed and robbed tourists amid a series of wild brawls on Melb...

Funny how there is no mention about this on the ABCnews website...

I would have thought hundreds of people getting bashed would be a big deal, but half the articles on there at the moment are fluff pieces about nothing.

Oh it was only 60 people bashing each other and stealing shit, never mind then.

Find another source and I might believe that 0.6 HUNDREDS ran amok.

It involved roughly 200 people of African appearance who were brawling on The Esplanade as well as robbing and assaulting bystanders, 60 of which trashed a McDonalds.

http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/wild-brawl-at-st-kilda-fast-food-restaurant/news-story/8...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5178461/HUNDREDS-youths-rob-tourists-brawl-St-Kilda.html

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/38302555/teenagers-bashed-as-dozens-of-youths-rampage-throu...

These African gangs have been around for years, there’s multiple articles online about the problems they are causing. I see nothing has been done about it.

Try one of these subthreads