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As Americans Abandon Religion, Trump Conservatives Push Church In Schools

As Americans Abandon Religion, Trump Conservatives Push Church In Schools
As Americans Abandon Religion, Trump Conservatives Push Church In Schools

They do not only want to infuse their religion into the public school system, they want to take actual education out of it. That's the only way their nonsensical delusion can take root - in the absence of critical thinking skills.

That's about the only way religion can keep spreading.

By being shoved down our throats lol

This really gets at the crux of the argument. It's no secret that republicans want their constituency to be dumb and religious because it makes them much easier to control. People are much more likely to back ideas that are antithetical to their own well being if they believe that it's morally salient to do so. Republicans absolutely want people to be more worried about their standings in an afterlife because it keeps them complicit in their own well being here on earth. This is why it's so important to teach children to think critically so that they can resist such awful ideologies.

This is what's so scary about conservatives. They cram their religion and their interpretation of it down everyone's throats. They should never have power for this reason. It's a threat to the first constitutional right that was placed so long ago to avoid this exact outcome. The government has no business regulating or teaching religion.

Fake News can last a long time...over 2000 years. For example, the Bible, the resurrection of Jesus, and Zombies

Fake News can last a long time...over 2000 years. For example, the Bible, the resurrection of Jesus, and Zombies

Matthew (27:52-53) "The graves were opened; and MANY bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto MANY."

Hello historians! How'd you miss that? Zombies. Roaming around. Seen by MANY!!

Not a fucking peep about it anywhere but Matthew.

Seems legit.

I love Hitch's quote referencing the event:

I'll grant you that it would possible to track the pregnancy of the woman Mary who's mentioned about three times in the Bible and to show there was no male intervention in her life at all but yet she delivered herself of a healthy baby boy. I can say— I don't say that's impossible. Parthenogenesis is not completely unthinkable. It does not prove that his paternity is divine and it wouldn't prove that any of his moral teachings were thereby correct. Nor, if I was to see him executed one day and see him walking the streets the next, would that show that his father was God or his mother was a virgin or that his teachings were true, especially given the commonplace nature of resurrection at that time and place. After all, Lazarus was raised, never said a word about it. The daughter of Jairus was raised, didn't say a thing about what she'd been through. And the Gospels tell us that at the time of the crucifixion all the graves in Jerusalem opened and their occupants wandered around the streets to greet people. So it seems resurrection was something of a banality at the time. Not all of those people clearly were divinely conceived. So I'll give you all the miracles and you'll still be left exactly where you are now, holding an empty sack.

It sounds like a Dungeons and Dragons campaign gone wrong back in the day, some Necromancer used a few spells to summon the undead or something... [5]

People Would still hate each other for being different they'd just invent new reasons for it.

This is why no one likes you guys. I'll be downvoted, it's part of the point but for real guys you make atheist look bad.

Pat Robertson on Thursday said "he knew that the Lord was going to give Trump victory" by letting the Republican health care plan pass Congress. The health care plan died in Congress on Friday.

Pat Robertson on Thursday said "he knew that the Lord was going to give Trump victory" by letting...

It's almost as if he is not hearing the voice of God, but just making up shit.

Perhaps the health care plan with rise again in 3 days

BUT GOD TOLD ME THAT EVERYTHING OBAMA DID WAS WRONG /s

Funny how "God" has the same opinions that they have.

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“Who is more humble? The scientist who looks at the universe with an open mind and accepts whatever the universe has to teach us, or somebody who says everything in this book must be considered the literal truth and never mind the fallibility of all the human beings involved.” –Carl Sagan

“Who is more humble? The scientist who looks at the universe with an open mind and accepts whatever the universe has to teach us, or somebody who says everything in this book must be considered the literal truth and never mind the fallibility of all the human beings involved.” –Carl Sagan

Came across this quote the other day. I really like it. Anyone else have some good quotes they would like to share?

The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom,

-Isaac Asimov

"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan

Probably my favorite quote of all time.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

Upton Sinclair

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” - Isaac Asimov

Mormon Church leaders call gay marriage "counterfeit marriage," so /u/amityjack made this website, www.counterfeitmarriage.com, to show how the church once called "traditional" marriage counterfeit, preferring polygamy. /u/amityjack has already heard from church HQ about it. Let everyone know!

Mormon Church leaders call gay marriage "counterfeit marriage," so /u/amityjack made this website, www.counterfeitmarriage.com, to show how the church once called "traditional" marriage counterfeit, preferring polygamy. /u/amityjack has already heard from church HQ about it. Let everyone know!
Mormon Church leaders call gay marriage "counterfeit marriage," so /u/amityjack made this website...

You can read about the call /u/amityjack received from church HQ here.

EDIT: Apparently we created too much traffic for the site's servers. Damn! Be sure to check it out later!

EDIT 2: It was working for me just now. Try a few times if it doesn't work when you first click it. Google Cache works, too.

Mormonism is creepy as fuck, wow

There was a Mormon guy in my last research lab. He spent a lot of time doing Mormon outreach, missionary stuff in Taiwan. He admitted that about half of what he did over there was keep track of people who were already Mormons, and the Mormon church is way better at keeping track of people than the government is.

Counterfeit marriage?

Counterfeit seer stones, counterfeit gold plates, counterfeit stories, counterfeit religion.

The Mormon Church lied about it's involvement in Prop 8, claiming it was all local and not directed by church leaders. Mormon Leaks released docs today proving otherwise. If the Mormon Church wants to impose it's morals via the law, the Mormon Church should pay taxes.

The Mormon Church lied about it's involvement in Prop 8, claiming it was all local and not directed by church leaders. Mormon Leaks released docs today proving otherwise. If the Mormon Church wants to impose it's morals via the law, the Mormon Church should pay taxes.

Doc 1

Doc 2

Also worthy of attention, the Mormon Church became the first religious organization to be FINED by the California Fair Political Practices Commission over their involvement in Prop 8. Link.

If you want to use your church members and money to influence politics and to enshrine discrimination into your state's constitution, you should pay taxes just like everybody else.

For clarification, the church claimed that the only involvement it had was local congregations getting involved in the political process. The first document, the powerpoint, proves that Clayton, Cook and Ballard (some of the highest ranking men in the church) were calling the shots from Salt Lake City. LIE!

From the second doc:

“We must be more concerned about establishing righteousness than being tolerant. We cannot passively accept, in the name of tolerance, the redefinition of marriage.” Mormon Apostle Boyd K. Packer

They openly admit that their goal is to "establish righteousness" by enshrining discrimination into California's state constitution. For fucks sake, they want theocracy.

Mormon Church should pay taxes.

All religions should pay taxes, they're all equally bullshit.

No different from Sharia.

If they pay taxes, then they get to participate in politics. It's a double-edged sword. Better to require they are transparent about their finances, to the same degree that other charities are required.

See: /r/atheism/wiki/taxes

WATCH: Oklahoma State Rep says rape and incest are the ‘will of God’ in abortion bill hearing

WATCH: Oklahoma State Rep says rape and incest are the ‘will of God’ in abortion bill hearing
WATCH: Oklahoma State Rep says rape and incest are the ‘will of God’ in abortion bill hearing

then, by that logic, so are abortions.

The Bible also says a rape victim is supposed to marry her rapist.

Its sad how far people will twist human decency to maintain their dogma. But if they're didn't, then it wouldn't be a dogma.

Gets the souls to god faster.

I live in Oklahoma and this is about 80%+ of the state's population. Plz prey 4 me

Atheists Sue Texas Judge Over His Coercive Christian Prayers at Hearings

Atheists Sue Texas Judge Over His Coercive Christian Prayers at Hearings

How can a court that tosses out the constitution before it even hears cases have any legal authority?

I used the "would this be okay for any other religion" response when talking about Jesus stickers on police cars. My friend said "that's such a cliche argument."

Duh, because it's the whole point.

Welcome to Texas

"So that means you've had time to prepare a response to it. Would you feel comfortable if the stickers represented Islam?"

I am baffled when Christians ask me how atheists can have morals without religion. Their entire religion is based on the premise that a mere belief in God and repentance exonerates rape, murder, etc. and allows the wicked into Heaven, yet the moral code of an atheist is somehow more flawed?

I am baffled when Christians ask me how atheists can have morals without religion. Their entire religion is based on the premise that a mere belief in God and repentance exonerates rape, murder, etc. and allows the wicked into Heaven, yet the moral code of an atheist is somehow more flawed?

Time and time again, I have been asked by my friends who have faith what prevents an atheist from committing various offenses from rape to murder to thievery if they do not have a moral code grounded in a belief in a higher power, eternal life, the punishment of hell, etc.

Logically, if you turn the tables, it is actually the theist (in this particular case the Christian) who has very little stopping them from committing various offenses.

For example, according to the Christian, you can murder, rape, pillage, steal, commit genocide.... but if you ask sweet baby Jesus to come into your little bitty heart and save you, all your evil sins are wiped away and you will live in forever happiness in Heaven.

Yet the atheists are somehow more likely to rape and pillage because they don't believe that they can be magically forgiven and exonerated for any terrible act? Please.

EDIT: I understand this point of view is espoused by various belief systems, not just Christianity. I also understand that not all Christians think that atheists cannot possibly be moral. Where I live, I don't encounter many Hindus or Muslims, so evangelicals in particular tend to get my goat more than others.

Faith based morality isn't morality at all. It's obedience.

ohhhh I like that. Adding that to the Penn Jillette quote that gets used. Also one of my favorites is from True Detective, "If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward then, brother, that person is a piece of shit."

I'm a big fan of the quote attributed to H.L. Mencken:

"Morality is doing what is right no matter what you're told. Religion is doing what you're told no matter what is right."

How do Atheists know which rules to follow? The same way Christians know which rules in the Bible not to follow.

It’s Time to Start Calling Evangelicals What They Are: The American Taliban

It’s Time to Start Calling Evangelicals What They Are: The American Taliban
It’s Time to Start Calling Evangelicals What They Are: The American Taliban

I really wish other atheists wouldn't do this, because it makes us look like a bunch of fucking idiots.

I don't like Christians either, but they're not running around beheading people and regularly engaging in suicide bombings.

Yeah, I'm a little fuzzy on when the Southern Baptists murdered thousands, engaged in mass rape and enslavement as punishment, wiped entire towns off the map, and committed public executions of people who didn't support them.

Seriously, I don't like evangelicals and want to build a massive wall between church and state, but there is a world of difference between them and actual extremist groups.

The Taliban publicly executed people who spoke out against Islam and didn't allow woman to leave the house without a male relative. Woman also couldn't study past the age of eight and could only study the Koran. Breaking these rules also risked execution.

So I hate comparisons like this. It just makes atheists look like idiots.

This title reminds me of a talk given by Matt Dillahunty called, "Hyperbole will Destroy the World."

Evangelicals may believe some radical things and influence American politics to a degree, however they are orders of magnitude less extreme than the Taliban.

Try one of these subthreads