I don't really think it's fair to put all the blame on the boy scouts here. The BSA is an organization that takes traditions very seriously, and it's tradition that the sitting president is always invited to the national jamboree. The leaders of scouting are pissed too, Trump twisted the scout law to fit with his campaign points for crying out loud.
You should see the scouting subreddit, they're furious about it.
Edit: crap, I had no idea this was gonna blow up so much.
First off, /sub/bsa was the scouting sub I was taking about, my bad.
Also, here's the official BSA response: https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCNews/status/889829197920825348
It's not as satisfying as I'd hoped, but better than silence.
I put more blame on Trump for running his mouth and not sticking to a script than I put on the BSA for inviting him to speak in the first place.
It's so frustrating because on paper the Boy Scouts is such an amazing idea for children, which I personally loved as a kid, but it gets so fucked when politics and religion get involved. Can't we just have a club that teaches kids about the outdoors and being a good person without having to attach a political and religious ideologies.
As an eagle scout... I'm absolutely ashamed.
Harvard professor and author Steven Pinker came out in support of Dawkins, writing to KPFA that their decision was “intolerant, ill-reasoned, and ignorant”. “Dawkins is one of the great thinkers of the 20th and 21st century. He has criticised doctrines of Islam, together with doctrines of other religions, but criticism is not ‘abuse’,” said Pinker. “People may get offended and hurt by honest criticism, but that cannot possibly be a justification for censoring the critic, or KPFA would be shut down because of all the people it has hurt and offended over the decades.”
Pinker said that the move “handed a precious gift to the political right, who can say that left-leaning media outlets enforce mindless conformity to narrow dogma, and are no longer capable of thinking through basic intellectual distinctions”.
Pinker nailing it two times
“My memory of KPFA is that you were unusually scrupulous about fact-checking. I especially admired your habit of always quoting sources,” he wrote to KPFA in an open letter he shared on his website. “You conspicuously did not quote a source when accusing me of ‘abusive speech’. Why didn’t you check your facts – or at least have the common courtesy to alert me – before summarily cancelling my event?”
It's so true. It fuels the fires of the right. That being said, Dawkins is very intellectually honest and his ideas are very well reasoned. I don't like his tone sometimes, but the man is a genius. What he says is worth something.
I don't like his tone sometimes
He and Neil deGrasse Tyson were at a one time where Neil criticized him for just that. Neil told him that he has a job as someone trying to educate and convince people to be an effective communicator, and that his tone has a "sharpness of teeth" that makes people stop listening to him. He added that if his audience stops listening, he has failed in his goal to communicate to them.
Incorrect. Kentucky tolerated her refusal to perform her job responsibilities. Kentucky screwed Kentucky taxpayers.
Kim Davis is just another hypocrite. She won't issue a marriage license to a gay couple, because the bible says that's wrong. But she will issue a marriage license to a couple who are on their second or third or fourth marriages, when the bible says that's wrong as well. This has nothing to do with religious freedom. This has everything to do with her own personally bigotry. If you're going to claim religious freedom on one issue, you can't turn around and ignore that same religious belief for someone else in the same situation. That alone should be reason enough to prove she was willfully discriminating, rather than practicing "religious freedom".
I just love how born agains are ok with coming to terms with their own "sin" and follow their own path to god after doing things they deem unacceptable, but won't let other people try to find their own "path to god"
It was completely ok for her to take however many years to come back to god, but anyone else who hasn't found him yet has to change RIGHT NOW and is not allowed to find their own path.
I don't remember the details, but wasn't there some legal reason why the state couldn't simply get someone else to issue the licences?
Although, really, the state should have been putting every effort into finding a way around any such difficulties as quickly as possible. It is hard to imagine that it couldn't have been sorted out promptly, without the couples needing to take legal action against Davis directly.
I'm glad to see we're on the right path. It's still such horrible discrimination that there are still publicly funded Catholic schools at all.
Actually world religions class was the best class I took because my teacher was so cultured and grounded
There should be religion classes in public schools; everyone should learn about each religion's history, customs, etc. It makes for a better understanding and thus more accepting of the world in general.
Throw in a course about taxes, financing and wow, school might actually be worth going to :)
Learning about religion in a non-religious setting is good. It's being indoctrinated in a religious setting that is bad.
This smells a little bit like Christians not wanting their children to get information.
How will they blame atheists for that?
Render unto Caesar, motherfucker.
Obviously the responsible parties have been swayed by the words of satan.
Suck it Ken Ham.
EDIT: Well, that was my first reaction. But now that I think about it, that money was supposed to be given through tax rebates. Now that a non-profit owns it are they even going to pay taxes in the first place? So does this even matter?
It should be noted that the cleric did not rape the young girl, but was responding to the fact a three year old girl was raped in Yemen and deciding to blame the victim. I cannot conceive what kind of clothing he thought a toddler was wearing to possibly excuse what happened.
I must be getting old because I remember a time when 3 year olds could want around nude at the beach or at the creek and nobody thought they were 'asking' to be raped. Maybe it helped that I don't like in a country that is stuck in biblical times.
Sorry, a friend shared it to me privately with a couple others where the clergy member did rape the kid, but the others were months old and this was recent. And I should have read it more carefully. Reddit should let people edit the title.
They kind of want to. They fear that a sub like /sub/circlejerk would exploit it and end up with something like "I HATE N*GGERS" on the front page... which isn't that far off if you think about it.
These people's incessant focus on archaic bronze age beliefs will be the end of their influence as people realise how backwards they are.
I'd have accepted the money and shut down the LGBT group... for 5 seconds before starting it right back up. I'm sure they didn't stipulate the length of the shutdown.
Why are these people tax exempt again?
Shut down the LGBT group.....
And then create a LGBTQ group
Taxes that would specifically pay for better police and emergency services that are needed because the park is now there; let that sink in.
Obviously the council needs to counter this by withdrawing all support such as fire and police, road maintaince etc.
Is that area flood prone? Please let it be flood prone...
Sorry, Wannabe-Noah, we can't come save you from that anchored "boat" because we're out of money!
In the end it's likely all about the money. Ken Ham is just another Jim Bakker charlatan. Who knows, he may not even be a religious person. Instead he's just another dirty preacher who discovered a meal ticket with the creationism act, found that people were more than willing give him money if he told people what they want to hear.
"Hey, everyone! Look at how black the kettle is!"
You need to take the Bible JUST the right amount of literal. Everything? Crazy fundamentalist! Nothing? Heathen!
It turns out that the correct number is exactly 47.63%.
That's offensive to African Americans and Dutch lesbians
But it has to be the correct 47.63% otherwise you're not a True Christian™.
I recall that reading that the entire golden age of Judaism is a complete myth. Ancient Israel never rose above being a petty little kingdom surrounded by massive empires.
This is exactly what I would tell people if I knew where his mines and gold were.
So he made his fortune in ethereum like everyone else.
"In unrelated news; Gold. Why do historians have so much of it all of a sudden?"