I bought into the drain the swamp shit, I'll honest. Call me gullible, call me whatever you want. I work a blue collar job in a steel mill in a conservative state. You work with guys 12 hours a day that all put the Trump sticker on their hard hats. I thought he'd be a champion for the guys like us. Looking back, a billionaire narcissist giving two shits about us, I should've known better. Today that sticker came off my hard hat. The energy deal he signed, and now planning to sign away my online privacy, that's the final straw for me. If the guys at work want to ask why I'll tell them. And I'll tell them why next election I'll be voting for a democrat from the north that they all consider to be a socialist.
Edit: Whoever gilded me I thank you. This comment got more attention than I ever thought. I appreciate every one of you guys that has offered words of support and also the ones curious as to why I voted the way I did in the first place. If you'll look through the comments below I had some people ask me why I supported trump and why my coworkers would. I think you'll find some insight into the mindset of some of these people. While I don't think it speaks for all trump supporters, I know it holds truth with the people in my community. To those of you who have commented and sent semi-hateful pms to me about my being a bad person/gullible and the people in my community not being good people, I will agree with you on my being gullible, I was. I said in my comment that you can call me whatever you want and I meant it. It will not bother me because I know I'm opening my eyes and going to make more informed voting decisions in the next election. However, you are wrong when you say that the people in my community are bad people for voting for Trump. They made a bad decision when it came to electing a president. That does not make them bad people. Some of these people are the most genuine, heartfelt, caring people out there. They would give you the shirt off their back if you needed it, and they'd still give it to you right after you called them a horrible person for voting for Trump. Again thanks to those who offered support and kind words, you guys rock. Edit 2: Well this absolutely blew up. It's my off day so I'm trying my best to answer all your guys' questions, but there are a lot. Again I thank those for the kind words. And to those with condescending replies, I understand your points. Most of them are valid. I made a bad choice, do I deserve to be belittled and talked down to because of it, yeah maybe a little. But to an extent. If you have a genuine question or are looking for some insight to why I supported trump, check my comments I've made already and if I haven't answered it yet I'll try to get around to it.
I love it when outrage crosses the partisan barrier. hopefully it catches more & more steam & congress gets scarred about how they fucked up on this
It doesn't matter where a person is from on the ideological spectrum, if we agree on the issues at hand we should work with them.
I wouldn't call you anything but courageous. I understand why you would vote for someone who promises a better life for you, your family, & your community.
but admitting you & the collective opinion of your community was wrong is something that is damn near impossible for many people today. too many people will stick by their candidate & their "team" regardless of the poor & ignorant decisions they made. I admire you for being able to stand up for what you believe in against the popular opinion.
This guy gets it right on ever single god damn issue. He'll get my vote again in 2020.
Yeah. I seriously believe that not electing Burnie in 2016 split us off on to some doomsday timeline that we are not actually supposed to be in. LIke Trump colluded with russia and they sent someone back in time to fuck with the timeline Back to the Future Biff style. Everything just seems all fucky now.
Seriously though. Having him as president would have been the best thing to happen to the US in 50 years. The DNC really fucked us. Like really fucked us bad. They have lost my support for life.
The EFF is helping champion remedy if you're interested in helping yourself: https://act.eff.org/action/don-t-let-congress-undermine-our-online-privacy
Edit: with thanks to u/FadingArabChristians
Attempting to hijack your comment to say that the bill that lets ISPs to sell your internet has passed and President Trump has already endorsed the bill. I'd encourage you all to contact your ISP and tell them not to sell your data.
& since I'm editing anyway I'll pay forward whoever's generous appreciation that was.
If you know when representatives of the responsible entities are nearby invite some friends & family & and and yell at them, with permits, that messing with the internet and our privacy while empowering conglomerate monopolies is a bad idea.
And here's your chance to melt the President's phones: http://www.wikihow.com/Contact-the-President-of-the-United-States
If you want to book an event at Trump Tower you might be able to meet him: http://www.trumptowerny.com/events-contact
Edit 3: with thanks to u/thgntlmnfrmtrlfmdr
I just want to hijack this comment to say that many states allow you to recall representatives and senators for any reason. Various restrictions and rules apply to different states. If your rep or senator voted for this, check out the ballotpedia articles on state-by-state recall rules and start the recall process if possible. Check out the map and the bottom of the page here: https://ballotpedia.org/Recall
Yeah but Bernie's fall as a candidate wasn't Trump's fault, it was Hillary's and the DNC's. Don't let that be forgotten or overshadowed.
EDIT: I missed the end of the comment and see now you didn't forget. I'll leave this though because I still want to stress the point.
"A Vermont socialist"
They're still doing it
Oh for fuck's sake already
I don't give a crap if my house doesn't burn down. I don't consider paying the firefighters taxes a waste of money.
I don't drive on all the roads, but I still don't mind paying money to drive on them.
I don't drink everyones' water, but I don't mind paying to have it clean.
Why in god's green earth do people think medicare is any different from the dozens and dozens of life-providing services we pay for in a socialist manner?
Implying it's bad to be a socialist
What's the point of even having an image macro if you put the entire punchline in the title?
I am from the UK and I really wish that you guys as a whole had seen the benefit that this man would have brought to your country.
He doesn't care about left or right.
He only cares about right or wrong.
Say what you will about Sanders but that cat wants out.
If you get the joke without needing to click you're more likely to upvote. Same reason Amazon has 2 click ordering, sometimes that 3rd click is just too much.
Misleading title. Should read: "Bernie continues multi-decade campaign for Single Payer, Universal Health Care today at Hardwick Vt High School"
edit: the announcement that Bernie will be introducing a single-payer Medicare for all bill is the very next thing he says right after the original linked video ends. (/u/Chartis posted a longer video.)
The more we push for universal healthcare, the less radical the idea will seem. We need to keep pushing until a good majority of Americans no longer feel uneasy with the idea single payer and start accepting it as a mainstream proposal.
My gosh, how could anyone not be behind this man, and what he's pushing for here.
I had some loser from t_d say that North Korea is what America would be like if he was elected.
He wasn't joking.
Medicare for Ann
She deserves it
Such a beautiful sunfish.
go bernie! it is something else that the repubs can not come up with anything good. and here is the answer right in front of them.and they just don't see it.so go ahead bernie and solve the puzzle. fill in the last letters, may be when they see it up on the screen it will sink in!!!!!!!!
Find congressperson's office and demand medicare for all!
But they won't, for the same reasons Hillary wouldn't during the primary. Not enough Dems have bought into Sanders' broad donation base strategy, and are still counting on healthcare lobbyist dollars in the midterms. Idiots.
Because they are basically republicans. We need to push this hard. Any senator that doesn't agree with Medicare for all needs primaried. I have had enough with these manchins and such halting real progress.
I will introduce again what I call a Medicare-for-All single payer program.
Seriously though, any senator that doesn't agree. Even if the alternative is obviously worse. These people suck because they have job security, and while there might be a short term loss people need to think long term about this. If politicians learn that they get replaced every time they don't listen, they will start to listen. Maybe it takes 4 years for them to figure it out, maybe 8, but it's better than spinning your wheels voting in democrats just to keep republicans out. Democrats want the people to play their game when they should be playing our game. Losses are the Democratic establishment's fault, not the fault of the voters. We're playing a first person shooter and the democrats are off trying to explore the map instead of helping so we keep getting killed.
I find it rich when baby boomers criticize Millennials for being coddled.
Baby boomers grew up in the best time ever. When baby boomers were in their 20's you could get a decent paying blue collar job with a high school degree or a good paying white collar job with any college degree. You could afford an entire year of college without going into debt just by working a part-time summer job. Many jobs had pensions at that time as well, healthcare was affordable, etc, etc.
Millennials are the first generation in a very long time to be financially worse off than their parents. And they want to lecture us about being coddled? Give me a fucking break.
Look if you live in any first world country you should be grateful just for that fact, I'm not saying that Millennials are in a horrible situation. But Millennials are facing a far tougher world at a young age than baby boomers did, so they really should shut the fuck up and not be on a high horse.
Millennials are the first generation in a very long time to be financially worse off than their parents.
Not only this, but we are the first generation in US history to have worse projected health outcomes than the generation before us.
We are also the most highly educated generation ever, more of us work more hours per week than previous generations did, and we are still going to be financially worse off than the previous generation.
Although productivity has increased since the 1980's, real wages of the typical worker have remained nearly flat. Wage rates for low wage workers all the way up to even recent college grads have been falling.
There are also significant and severe problems outside of the labor force. Many measures of irreversible environmental damage are increasing, and some increasing more rapidly than before with little sign of slowing down, despite environmental awareness also being at an all-time high.
These contradictions point to a systemic failure, not to individual ones.
Not all baby boomers. Many grew up in segregated schools and low income neighborhoods. Your comments makes me realize that when Reddit mentions baby boomers they are talking about their white parents.
That's because no one calls an inner city black kid "coddled". They call them "entitled" and try to take away their access to healthcare.
Also, baby boomers are the generation born post-WWII, which ended in 1945. School segregation was outlawwed in 1954, so at the latest, some were in segregated schools until 3rd-4th grade so long as their parents came back from the war and immediately started having kids in a school district that was still segregated by that time, which weren't all of them. That generation is mostly separated from segregated schooling.
Edit: I am by no means saying that segregation has ended in a structural sense, because we all know that laws are bent and camouflaged all the time, and racism is still highly pervasive. What happened during the youth of baby boomers, though, was the shift in cultural acceptance of minorities of all types, and laid the groundwork for the changes to come. What they were growing up through was the evolution of social consciousness, and didn't start from a period where -isms were openly codified and accepted in law, but were instead being consistently challenged through their lifespan.
When we found out our plant was being shutdown I googled the salary of the CEO of the company. It was more than every single person at our power plant combined. So when they said we didn't make enough money to stay open I was furious.
Salaries are usually a small line item in an operations budget.
That's an absurdly false statement. Not only are salaries/compensation the largest cost in virtually all operations budgets, in many cases it accounts for over half of the whole thing.
If it was a small part, then cheaper labor wouldn't be attractive and the plant wouldn't be moved.
For those upvoting me, be aware that I misread the initial thread (moderators tend to have to read the comments pretty quickly), and wasn't aware (because I didn't read carefully) that this whole conversation was in regard to power plants in the first place.
As much as I may agree with this in theory. Didn't they try this a few years ago and didn't it backfire? My understanding is that by disclosing how much one CEO makes, CEO's at competing companies who were making less would threaten to leave if their salaries were not matched.
From personal experience, if I find out the owner of my company makes 500X my own salary, that doesn't give me a bargaining chip the next time I am up for review or looking for a job at another company. I am not in a union. It just means all the CEO's are going to know how much they are making and demand their own salary be inflated to match whoever their biggest rival is.
This idea only works if CEO's have any sense of shame, which most do not. They will look their underpaid workers right in the face and say "Yes, I make this much money, because I am worth it."
I would rather a law that makes everyone disclose how much they make. Or at least removes a company's ability to punish you for disclosing your salary to coworkers. Workers would have more bargaining power if they knew what everyone else in their exact same position was making. Its hard to pay a welder minimum wage when he knows that every other welder is making $16 an hour.
EDIT: I think I found the paper that I read. It studied the effect of CEO disclosure back in 1934: https://www.princeton.edu/~amas/papers/CEODisclosureMandate.pdf
Now this is just one paper and its obviously a very different world from 1934, but wouldn't the results be similar? Has anyone read anything else about this? I just have a hard time imagining a positive outcome where CEO's have to disclose their salary, but workers cannot discuss their salary among themselves without fear of reprisal.
This is what happened in baseball in the 70s. IIRC players salaries used to be mostly secret. But their union encouraged them to disclose their salaries and that was when salaries started to skyrocket.
The difference may be that Bernie is saying to disclose the ratio, maybe not necessarily the top salary. So it might not have the same effect.
I just wish there was a way the country could somehow pool some of everyones money. And then when we need it, we could use that to pay for our health care. Plus then if health care cost ever got ridiculous, we bargain with the health care providers since we would be their main customer. If only. Oh well back to kickstarter for my easily treatable disease that I let get out of hand because I didn't have money at the time.
Get Medicare For All!
CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND DEMAND THEY SUPPORT HR.676
Plus then if health care cost ever got ridiculous, we bargain with the health care providers since we would be their main customer
That is essentially why European healthcare costs per capita are up to 3 times lower than American healthcare costs per capita. Not only that, but outcomes are superior. Single payer / universal systems put the state as the sole customer for all drugs, equipment, etc, representing the entirety of the nation's hospital system. That amount of buying power allows for prices to be driven down a lot. Compare this to the American system where it's every hospital for themselves (or hospital groups if they're lucky), they have no buying power, everything is suddenly more expensive.
The most capitalist thing (and, I'd say, most patriotic thing), America could do right now is institute a single payer system and catch up with the rest of the developed world.
But mah free market! I can't have those filthy liberals riding on my income!!