You know you're getting old when you agree with the antagonist in teen movies. The principal in "Ferris Bueller" was just trying to make sure a troubled teen got an education, and he's the bad guy?

You know you're getting old when you agree with the antagonist in teen movies. The principal in "Ferris Bueller" was just trying to make sure a troubled teen got an education, and he's the bad guy?

The principal in Ferris Bueller did go to some pretty extreme, and some would say inappropriate, lengths however.

and some would say inappropriate, lengths however.

So did the actual actor, guilty of childporn.

Or when watching The Little Mermaid and agreeing with King Triton when he says Ariel is still kinda a child at 16 years old.

I had a similar reaction when I went with my son's class to see the Wizard of Oz. Miss Gulch got bit by Toto - and the dog kept going after Miss Gulch's cat. Either put the dog on a leash, or find another route home.

And the witch was most likely the rightful heir to her sister's belongings. You shouldn't get to keep stuff just because you killed the previous owner.

Found the teenager.

It's like when you go from Spongebob to Squidward

You wouldn't be a very good pirate

Watched Matilda last night "My ideal school would be one without any children". I agree.

wasnt it molestation?

edit: not googling it ffs

And Spongebob is annoying as fuck. If I have to tell you 10+ times to leave me alone, that I just want some peace and quiet, then I'm gonna be a dick about it as well.

Isn't that what he went to jail for?

Either way it makes his ride on the school bus really creepy and uncomfortable.

Sure, 16 year olds can think for themselves and make their own decisions, but since we make decisions based on our past experiences, and a teenagers decisions are based on experiences as a child, it's not a surprise teenagers do stupid things. It's like putting a adults brain into a child's body

Recently I realized that I actually sympathized with the parents of the girls in teen movies who are in love with guys who come from bad/ criminal families. They (esp.the fathers) are made out to be villains for trying to break up the couple, but if I was a father I wouldn't want my daughter to be mixed up with a guy whose family could be dangerous. (Even if the guy himself was "different")

16 years old is young, but old enough to think for yourself. 16 was considered an adult back in the day

That 70's Show: it's about a struggling dad stuck with a lazy pot smoking son who whines all the time.

lol I remember when my sister turned 18. She would literally stomp her fucking foot and say "I'm 18 now I demand respect!"

Like, fuck you, bitch. You go get your own apartment then. I was only like 10 and I realized what a cunt she was. Jeezus K. Rhyst

Bubbles from Lilo and Stitch is painted as a bad guy for trying to "take away" Lilo from her sister. My wife and I always discuss how he's the only one who's actually trying to help them.

Then you call a Truency officer and don't break into a students home.

I never thought Bubbles was the villain. The movie shows that he genuinely dislikes the idea of separating the sisters, but circumstance is forcing him to do his job.

I always thought that circumstance was the villain. That life sometimes just sucks, and that it's not always someone's fault. That everyone can be the good guy, while nobody gets a happy ending.

...since we make decisions based on our past experiences, and a teenagers decisions are based on experiences as a child...

That's a clever way to put it.

I watched Hackers again last night and realized they were ruining the agent's life cuz he arrested a kid who HACKED INTO A BANK. I felt bad for the agent.

Still love the movie.

yeah it comes up as a TIL on the front page every now and again.

edit: reddit searched it

TIL that Jeffrey Jones, best known for playing principal Edward Rooney in 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off,' has been arrested on multiple occasions for employing a 14-year-old boy to pose for sexual photos and subsequently failing to update his sex offender registration

Did you watch Wicked(the play)? It's set in the same universe(but written independently) and provides the perspective of the "Wicked Witch", who is the protagonist. It fills in a lot of plotholes from the movie.

I used to think, as a teenager, that teenagers should each be locked in individual lockers until they can prove they can be decent people.

And Robin Williams in Mrs Doubtfire was a creepy manchild who deserved to be dumped.

I thought the villain was the shark dude

Squidward still seems like a dick tbh

Oh c'mon, Red was overbearing. Eric was a good, smart kid. I feel bad for Eric because Red was always hard on him and rarely concerned about Laurie, who was the really problematic one.

He was right about Bueller, but he took a wrong turn somewhere around animal cruelty and breaking and entering.

It fills in a lot of plotholes from the movie.

I thought the original book by L Frank Baum was supposed to fill the plotholes from the movie adaptation.

And Princess Ariel risks her father's life for some stranger she saw for two minutes! Most selfish Disney character ever.

Didn't she murder her brother for his money and physically abuse her niece (broke her arm)?

You know you are an adult (and maybe not in a good way) when you start sympathizing with Miss Trunchbull from Matilda.

true, but at the same time: fuck that kidยท

There was an episode of Jake and the Neverland Pirates where Jake's crew formed a rock band and sung the same chorus over and over again.

Captain Hook just wanted them to stop. I was on his side.

But how can they prove they can be decent people when they're locked in individual lockers?

every day... you don't only work with that idiot, he also lives next to you.

Give it time.

Squidward goes out of his way to 'get at' Spongebob, but at the same time, Spongebob is an incredibly inconsiderate neighbor.

The older you get, the more the kids in The Breakfast Club seem like a bunch of whiny douchebags.

https://youtu.be/7NB9Ocs2eLU

Add some ominous music and this felony Breaking and Entering scene loses its charm:

Red foreman was always my goal if I became a parent

exactly

Not just that, but the obsession with one student. Chasing down a class skipper isn't even in his job description, but he's just so intent on ruining the future of one particular student that he completely negates his duties and responsibilities to an entire school and staff while he runs around town breaking property laws and assaulting their dog.

I saw Rent a bunch of times in my late teens/early 20s. Recently my best friend pointed out that Benny's plan to have an art space funded by condos in the same building isn't a bad one. And also the rest of the crew were special fucking snowflakes for thinking they shouldn't have to pay rent. (Yes, they had an oral agreement with Benny. Yes, Benny was a dick. But his digital studio thing was ahead of its time and fucking pay your rent and get off my lawn, kids.)

Wasn't there an episode where this was explained as essentially being because he actually saw potential in Eric? Or am I making this up?

Really did that actually happen? I'm not googling ffs either.

It's kinda like watching Ghostbusters and realizing the EPA guy was just trying to reign in a bunch of crazy paranormal professors with an untested, unregulated nuclear reactor in one of America's biggest cities. But no, he's the bad guy.

Then again, it can work, banning freakin dancing in Footloose? Way off base there dude.

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Sure, but the 26 year old version of myself considered the 16 year old version of myself to be a child... and I'm sure that my 36 year old self will consider the 26 year old version to be an immature little shit. Figuring out where to draw the line becomes kind of arbitrary beyond a certain point.

Rip van winkle: I Command your respect! Alucard: No, you demand my attention.

Genuinely curious. What was redeeming or relatable about Miss Trunchbull (apart from "children are the worst" hyperbole)?

Yeah, I mean what kind of weirdo offers loose gummies from their pocket?

"I love you too, dad"

"Stop being weird!"

Maybe so, but running off to do shady doings in order to run away to try to be with a boy you've never spoken to, know nothing about, and whom you have nothing in common with are not the actions of a mature adult.

She also emotionally abused her niece in adulthood, constantly intimidating her and making sure she could never be free and fully independent(since Miss Honey still had to work at Matilda's school). It also left deep psychological scars, with Miss Honey deciding to live in a shitty house as a coping mechanism.

...damn, Matilda is much darker than I thought when first reading it.

Well they were nice and warm though.

It was a book first.

That's what makes this not a great example. Even in the movie, he wasn't ever shown as a villain; just the messenger of a problem. In fact, he was quite reasonable. Get a job; train the... dog.

Cool, I'll let my parents know.

Dahl definitely comprehended child abuse.

I think it's time for me to go back through older movies and rewatch them to see if my perspective has changed.

Just blindly shutting off power to the thing when the people who built it said that would be fantastically dangerous, though, that's not cool. "Hey look a dangerous nuclear reactor thing, let's pull the power to the containment field." Yeah.

Oddly enough it was a pretty wierd case. If I remember right he did this wierd thing where you basically won't admit to the crime but don't deny it either. I think it was called a no contest plea and he still had to go on a sex offender list but had much less jail time.

Same goes for Tom and Jerry. Tom is just trying to do his job, but Jerry has to be a dick.

So is Heugh

Can you think of many devices that become more dangerous once you cut their power?

Nuclear reactors, for one.

Rooney was a petty, insecure man threatened by Ferris' youthful exuberance.

Source: just rewatched this on TV.

Miserable teenage me did not go that far in my reasoning

Wasn't it hey Arnold, or Kids Next Door or something?

Edit: it was Fairly Odd Parents. The officer's name was "Shallowgrave". Lol

Brain development doesn't really "complete" until sometime in your 20s, including the development of executive function, so while teens have the capability of intelligence and coherence, they're not really firing on all cylinders. The argument that they "used to be old enough" should generally be put into the context of a lack of developmental neurophysiology understanding which was further rendered moot considering that at 16, your life was likely half to a third over so what the hell.

well yeah him too

He really did not act like a good husband. Hosting a party against the explicit wish of his wife, and bringing all those animals in the house without consulting her is not the making of a good partner. She may have been overly harsh by forbidding a birthday party but that is something for him to discuss as adults, not something for him to ignore and do anyway behind her back. If I were her, I'd be furious too.

Marriage is definitely a commitment, but sometimes shit just doesn't work out. They were clearly unhappy with one another, and the old "staying together for the kids" helps no one. I think they were right to get divorced.

Heard he also likes little kids.

It's strange, even watching it as a kid I felt sorry for her. I still rooted for Matilda but still wanted a happy ending for Miss Trunchbull too.

I felt sorry for her

Are you kidding me? She was a fucking psychopath, murdered her brother and abused her niece! She should be in jail! Trunchbull got a happier ending than she deserved

You'd think Captain Hook would be into choruses.

As a teacher in a university.....summer breaks are the best!!!

Yes and no. He absolutely shouldn't have gotten full custody of his kids. But he was a loving parent. They shouldn't have not given him ANY visitation. He wasn't a danger to his kids in any way

"I have my father's gun, and a scorching case of herpes."

Well before teenagers as we think of them today existed 16 was an adult and you'd better go get a job and get married.

Sadly while I love his exuberant comedy, I struggle watching a lot of his films. My parents always explained to me after his movies that he was being a total douche. Almost always he could've fixed the system without bucking it.

But times have changed and it is not as simple as it once was. That doesn't mean I don't agree with the sentiment of your statement though.

I am 33 y/o but I feel that teenager's get a doubled sided sword in the way their rights are chosen. Taxed without representation, can be charged as adults for crimes, and, in general, get less previlidge from either age class (adults and children)

I would be happier with an "all or none" approach. Right now we mix and match teenage rights without allowing the effected class to represent themselves.

"Any man who must say 'I am king' is no true king at all" - George RR Martin, A Storm of Swords.

Fisher Steven's character is really unpleasant though.

(And the 90s fashion... such a cringe fest!)

Yep. She was a monster.

I remember some other movie or show where the truancy offer was this big bad guy hunting down kids who ditched for the arcade

A ring on your finger isn't the end game. It's a reminder of the constant commitment, love, and support you give to your significant other. If you aren't giving this, you don't deserve to be married.

You know you are old when your example for a teen movie is "Ferris Bueller" ; )

Yeah, but would you rather pass the gun to your 26 year old self or your 16 year old self, given you're in a time-altering life and death scenario?

She paid the iron price!

A quote I like is "Teenagers have urges that they can't control, and no way to deal with those urges." It's true in every way; we can't do anything we want but yet we are expected to have all the responsabilities of an adult. Being a teenager is just the worst aspects of being a child and the worst aspects of being an adult mashed together

Noooo Ferris can't be troubled. He's a fun loving teen who needed a senior skip day! :(

But Cameron is the movie. It's just him in a bed. I'm kidding

I teach swimming lessons at the ymca

Yeah, he wasn't in the wrong. I don't know how long they really expected to be able to live somewhere rent free

She wanted the dog put down after it bit her. That's why Dorothy ran away from the farm, despite the storm. But the movie is set around 1930, right? Considering the risk of getting seriously ill from a dog bite (not to mention the risk of rabies) at that time, what she was asking wasn't unreasonable. Yeah, the dog was cute. But would it be OK for Miss Gulch to get blood poisoning and die, just because she's a nasty woman?

Maybe that's why he was so persistent?

That much is true. As a little kid, that's the only thing that made sense to me. In my head, I was thinking that without "the power of love", Stitch would have killed Lilo and moved on to the rest of the island within a few hours.

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