TIL The "real Mafia" did not allow the producers of "The Godfather" to use the word Mafia in the movie. They even sent "family" members to the set to monitor filming. That's how producers discovered Lenny Montana aka "Luca Brasi"

TIL The "real Mafia" did not allow the producers of "The Godfather" to use the word Mafia in the ...

Montana was so nervous about appearing opposite Brando that he kept practicing his lines over and over again.

TIL when you are Marlon Brando even badass mobsters are nervous in front you.

the scene

Here is where Luca Brasi is so nervous in front of Marlon Brando that he fumbles his lines. Francis Ford Coppola kept his mistakes in the final cut to show the fear his character had for The Godfather.

Meanwhile, here's Marlon Brando reading his lines off of Robert Duval.

I thought this was intentional because the acting seemed so spot on.. I suppose it was in a very different way, then

He would tie a tampon to the tail of a mouse, dip it in kerosene, light it, and let the mouse run through a building, or he would put a candle in front of a cuckoo clock so that when the clock's bird would pop out the candle would be knocked over and start a fire.

That's pretty clever.

The best performance an actor can give is to make it believable. Nothing more believable than true, authentic fear.

The "real mafia" doesn't even use the word.

It's "This thing of ours".

Luca's son owns a pizza shop in Westwood (Los Angeles) called Enzo's. It's the best Italian food! And it has photos from the godfather all over the walls.

Exactly. Welcome to method acting.

Is it old school cool? I'm pretty sure Marlon Brando was just notorious for not learning his lines and being generally difficult to work with

And it has photos from the godfather all over the walls.

This is not sufficient to differentiate it from the every other pizza shop in America.

"Dr. Moreau, these experiments... They're inhumane!"

"Car 27, car 32 is requesting back-up to a domestic disturbance at 239 Maplewood Lake Drive."

"Uhh... What?"

"SHOTS FIRED! SHOTS FIRED! OFFICER DOWN! I REPEAT, OFFICER DOWN!"

Almost like a cosa... a cosa that is nostra.

In one movie when he played a lawyer the lines were free to him through an ear piece speaker

Same as when he was in The Island of Dr. Moreau. Once there was a robbery and the ear piece picked up the police radio and Brando started reciting lines from dispatch instead of his own.

And pretty sadistic.

Also considered one of the greatest ever

If you want both of these than Anthony Hopkins is your man.

An excerpt from his Wiki page:

Hopkins is renowned for his preparation for roles. He indicated in interviews that once he has committed to a project, he will go over his lines as many times as is needed (sometimes upwards of 200) until the lines sound natural to him, so that he can "do it without thinking".

Maybe Montana got the role after the "real mafia" made the producers an offer they couldn't refuse. Producers then reused the material and wrote it into the script.

Now you listen to me, you smooth-talking son-of-a-bitch, let me lay it on the line for you and your boss, whoever he is! Johnny Fontane will never get that movie!

Well he was an arsonist so that's kind of a given

Given the choice, as an audience, I would much rather have Brando not learn his lines and put out a marvelous performance in the final product...Instead of some actors who memorized their lines but couldn't act their way out of a paper bag.

But then they aren't acting.

That's what I understood to be true. Cosa nostra (our thing) is how it was referred to in Italy, and for the American immigrants speaking English it is "this thing of ours".

Pretty sure that Enzo is the baker, not pizza shop owner.

I'm sort of confused by what you say here. Vito isn't scared, he's just tired of hearing requests from people and he knows that talking to Luca may be a big pain because he's kinda dumb.

christ, everyone is autistic to you people

I took a method one acting class. I only feared missing a class.

He was picked for the part after the original actor playing the character "died of a stroke."

FTFY Wikipedia

Same thing happened with Jason Mewes in Dogma. Didn't wanna piss off that Rickman guy.

He was picked for the part after the original actor playing the character died of a stroke.

I'd be nervous too if I just stroked someone to death.

Enzo the baker is a character in the movie, who goes to visit the Godfather in the hospital when Michael does. "I am Enzo. The baker.... If there is trouble, I stay here to help you. For your father. For your father."

In the novel Luca is a heartless,ruthless killer he "murdered an Irish prostitute hours after she bore his child. He then forced the midwife, under pain of death, to hurl the live infant into a burning furnace"... the only one that could control him was The Godfather

So that's it, huh? We're some kind of cosa nostra.

There is no mafia.

It didn't help that Marlon Brando wrote "fuck you" on an index card and and stuck it to his forehead in the shot from over his shoulder.

Source: FFC on The Godfather commentary track

Edit: Words.

R/oldschoolcool

His methods had become ...unsound.

Was it at the Method One Acting Clinic?

I tell my friends at their weddings that I hope their child is a masculine child.

By that I mean you autistic people

I never saw it as fear for his life, more that he had so much respect and admiration for the Godfather that he didn't want to fuck up his speech.

so when they showed brasi rehearsing his lines they showed him actually rehearsing his lines?

Brando's great ability as an actor came from his method. He believed that by experiencing his lines the first time on camera his reactions would be genuine, and his feelings would be raw. If you watch Streetcar Named Desire there's a scene where there are feathers floating around the air due to a commotion that had previously taken place. Brando snatches a feather out of the air (unscripted) and makes his monologue about the feather. It was such a simple act yet he delivered such an honest performance. Acting is doing. And that's what Brando did.

And Coppola added the scene of Brasi rehearsing his speech on porch to tie into the mistake.

Didn't understand why Vito was scared of Luca, though. He didn't want to see Luca at first.

It's in the book.

Also, I'm German-Irish

I love that story, if I remember correctly he memorized the whole script, not only his lines.

"Yah... he hadda stroke... or somethin. Anyways, dis guy can do what ya need, ok?"

He was a fucker on the set of Apocalypse Now, not sure if that's technically later in his career but regardless by then he was in full-blown 'fuck your project' mode

No. That was filmed three weeks after the speech scene so it made sense. Coppola liked the effect of Brasi being nervous in the presence of Don Corleone and worked it into the movie.

"He was picked for the part after the original actor playing the character died of a stroke."

Well...that's a coincidence.

Thanks for the correction, my Kraut-Mick friend.

Could be.. but the guy I talked to there said he owned the place and his father was Luca Brasi in the Godfather.

Edit: It also says it on their website's History page

Montana was so nervous about appearing opposite Brando that he kept practicing his lines over and over again.

That's more than Brando ever did.

Holy fuck I went in there a few months ago because my boss forgot his Phone and I was collecting it. The dude asked me: "How can you prove it's his phone?"

I said "I know the passcode and I can tell you the contacts in it."

He said, "Okay but I don't want any trouble for this later on"

Dude was nice about it, but I didn't even realize...

"This thing of ours"

"dis ting of aahrs" - FTFY

I read that in both actor's voices. That was fun.

For any damage he might cause including him not showing up and stuff and loss of time. When he filmed "On the Waterfront" he stayed only for his scenes, if he didn't have to be there he wasn't so whenever there was a conversation scene, the person he was talking to was often talking to no one, they usually stayed when he did his.

If you ever read the original Godfather book you'll see why that made him perfect for the role of Luca Brasi.

I lived in Sicily while serving in the military. I was in Catania with some locals and we watched some made looking guys skip the line and walk straight inside.

I said "Oh, I bet those guys are in the mafia."

They immediately all had looks of horror on their faces and told me you just can't say something like that in public. It was then I realized how legit those guys are out there.

Its a 10/10 book as long as you ignore the whole side plot about Sonny's big dick causing damage to that lady's vagina.

Well, that is one method. Anthony Hopkins once said in an interview that he reads his lines so many times that they become his own and so he's able to act more naturally and to know how to emphasize what. Paraphrasing here, of course.

Sure. But on the other hand, Anthony Hopkins once said in an interview that he reads his lines so many times that they become his own and so he's able to act more naturally and to know how to emphasize what. Paraphrasing here, of course.

That's the scene they used with him sitting on the steps practicing his lines in the actual film.

What do you mean...you people?

There are several different crime organisations in different (mostly southern) regions of Italy.

The term Mafia seems like a general one to refer to the type of organised crime syndicate.

In Sicily, the crime organisation is called Cosa nostra ('Our thing'/'This thing of ours'). Campania has the Camorra. Calabria has the 'Ndràngheta. This last one had interests in Australia where the organisation is known as "The Honoured Society". There are few other smaller, region specific, crime organisations in Italy.

What/who are you "quoting" when you use "quotation" marks all the "time"?

Aw shit, i thought he only started that in his later years or with productions he didnt give a shit about like with Superman.

Interesting. Did you know that Hopkins is renowned for his preparation for roles. He indicated in interviews that once he has committed to a project, he will go over his lines as many times as is needed (sometimes upwards of 200) until the lines sound natural to him, so that he can "do it without thinking"?

And when they sent message to their rivals, they'd say:

"Did you get that thing I sent you?"

It's almost paradoxical to think of anything in capital letters proceeded by an exclamation point coming out of Marlon Brando. I only hear his calm Godfather voice. I'm ruined.

And any mafia that is still around, is doing a better job at hiding their crimes. No busts would mean they haven't caught em

He's not scared. It goes WAY more into it in the book but basically Luca Brasi has no soul, and is a merciless killer who is loyal only to the Godfather. The other family members talk several times in the book specifically how they find him morally reprehensible, and he is only tolerated by Vito for killing. So not someone you really look forward to seeing or enjoy dealing with. They kind of killed the character in the film IMO.

"Did you get that thing I sent you?"

Yes. But with the RICO act, they are more fractured than before.

STELLA!

It shows them constantly double crossing and murdering each other.

Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes..

I feel like half the time you post a black and white photo, someone will comment "/sub/oldschoolcool".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Cl4g6iArU

Here's a great 4 min. interview with James Caan telling the story of how this happened and talking about working with Lenny. Awesome stuff if anyones interested

Here's a little more on Hopkins from one of my favorite Youtube channels.

yep! and he stumbles over his first line with Brando which they kept in the film.

That sounds way too sexual to not be intentional.

I took it that Luca was kinda "autistic spectrum", but hes a savant at assasinations for the mob.

He knows that a fuck up talking with hte boss could get him killed so it has to be rehearsed.

Amazing show.

Also Fun fact: Marlon Brando had to pay a deposit to be in the movie. Like 1 mil I think?

"He" is "talking" about "them". "They" talk a lot and make "the rules".

I suppose it can, but when Vito says, "Is this necessary?" it seems more annoyance than fear.

So they were just helping the film be more authentic? How thoughtful of them!

Those are the Sicilians, there's also the 'Ndragheta in Calabria, Camorra in Napoli and Sacra Corona in Puglia.

He didn't learn his lines because reading them fresh on set during a take provided more spontaneity.

Also why it portrayed them with a since of honor. Goodfellas was a little more true to reality on that front.

Am I missing an implication here?

I've thought this. He doesn't obey the godfather because he's afraid but out of respect. Only the Godfather can call of Luca Brasi and Brasi is deadly loyal to him. He killed 6 men in one week after the attempt on Don Corleone.

Sonny's dick didn't damage her vagina, she just had a big vagina and Sonny was the only one big enough to satisfy her until Dr. Jules Segal had her vagina surgically tightened. "Big vagina" is the medical term.

Well, that is one method. Anthony Hopkins once said in an interview that he reads his lines so many times that they become his own and so he's able to act more naturally and to know how to emphasize what. Paraphrasing here, of course.

The "real Mafia" was nothing like what was portrayed in The Godfather. In The Godfather Coppola basically invented the mannerisms and traditions in the film, the role of honor, etc., was non existent in the real Mafia. What is interesting is the movie was so influential The Mafia changed to be more like what was portrayed in the film; the power of art.

Snowcrash suddenly makes a little more sense.

In the shot, but the shot was short. A short shot. So we just put those two words together... wait...

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Ds8Cl4g6iArU&ved=0ahUKEwjM3pGMgbvRAhXHqlQKHTzvDawQt9IBCG0wEw&usg=AFQjCNENu7fwiqVsDVoOm3CqGHYzOaSQJA&sig2=qm_rFMa9NtoijuGhr7Xf0A

According to James Caan, no. That scene was added later.

I have no idea if that link works because fuck you mobile says google.

Yup. It's that easy. Welcome to the club.

Definintely! I think the last Season may be the weakest the first time around but I've watched the series twice and it got better each time.

Should I finish the Sopranos? I was watching it a few summers ago but stopped in the fourth season cause it was slowing down.