This is 2017 Folks; why are we allowing a statue to exist celebrating one of the worst mass murderers of the 20th Century like Lenin? TEAR IT DOWN!
What the fuck that's real?
Yeah it's real all right
SPEZ: I've been getting a lot of direct messages from people who don't seem to know the part Lenin played in the atrocities and how he was the architect of a lot of the abuses committed by the Soviet Union. Jordan Peterson had a good short lecture on just this.
SPEZ 2: Another photograph to show size and scale http://mobile.wnd.com/files/2015/11/11-10-15-lenin-statue-issaquah-press.jpg
yea but the people he killed were white so the left loves him.
Just start telling people it knows where Hillary's emails are and it will mysteriously disappear.
When the troubles start I have plans to unbolt that from its pedastal, wrap a chain around Vlads neck, and see how far down Leary Ave my full size 1 ton American made pickup can drag it.
Also, can confirm, (SFW)
Yep, that's real. Pretty close to the troll under the bridge in Seattle. Has some interesting history of how it came to be located there. Definite oddity.
They condemn Robert E Lee because he fought on the losing side but glorify a foreign lunatic who starved millions to death in Ukraine and executed hundreds of thousands of the ones that survived the holocaust by starvation.
I'm going to make a special point to go to Seattle and spit on this cunt's likeness.
He killed enough people for all the casualties of the civil war 15x over.
Stalin killed a lot of people too but Lenin was responsible for the Red Terror and the murder/gulag imprisonment of the Ukrainian farmers (he considered the independent farmers to be the most dangerous threat to USSR) which then led to the starvation of Ukraine (which Lenin also intentionally made worse).
I like it personally! History is important to preserve.
Agreed. To become offended and argue for removal of history feels like lowering to the standards of the triggered authoritarian. Freedom of speech. Suppression of fact and information are the tools of the enemy.
Confederate statues are hunted down and removed, but communist statues are kept? Let's petition the removal of this shit.
Let the people know who will rule over them in the end. Communism never died.
You don't understand, THAT was real Socialism. It's the goal.
Lenin did die before Holodomor but he was the one obsessed with destroying the Ukrainian peasantry. Lenin was the one to classify them as "Kulaks" or tight-fisted, stingy. All it really meant were farmers who weren't super enthusiastic about giving away all of their crop to the Soviets. Lenin made them class enemies and their persecution was exactly what he had created plans for and hoped to achieve. It was called Dekulakization.
He also was the one to really create the plans and start implementing the gulag system (which a lot of communist apologists try to pin on Stalin).
History is the statues of southern soldiers who where Americans. That is American history, which is also Christian history, not Communist history. Communism has no part of our great nation.
Lenin is not exactly U.S. history.
Hijacking this comment to say that the statue is both privately owned and on private property so no one y'all can't really do anything about it other than buy it (since I believe it is on sale).
edit: changed no one to y'all
You would be welcome to. Every now again it gets dressed in drag, like a clown, Christmas lights, etc...etc.... Personally I think it should stay up. You have to admit it would be pretty great to see Lenin all gussied up like he's going to a drag show.
Not a shill. I just think it's insane that there is a huge controversy over American history and historical monuments in the South while we have 20 foot bronze statues of a communist mass murderer existing in a liberal city without controversy.
Looking at your post history you sure like to make letters big, bold them, and call for mods. Good on you.
And that's not even decent art or an historical monument. That's just an idol.
Yeah, nothing says "Seattle" to me like a murderous commie.
Lenin died 8 years before Holodomor though?
Or am I misunderstanding his impact on the famine? I don't know much about Russian revolutionary history, so forgive me.
It's a privately owned statue - Unfortuantley.
Took my Russian wife over there to spit on it and flick it off for my birthday
Why the fuck is it in Seattle???? I'm from that area and never seen it but I'll have to go throw rocks st it sometime when I visit
are you sure you are not confusing lenin with stalin?
Commies keep washing the blood off but it always comes back
Well done. It is reprehensible that this isn't taught to students in the US anymore.
I hate it but don't want to be sheltered, experiencing the whole range of human emotion is kinda nice...
I-Is that Lenin? What in the actual whore asshole is he doing in the US?
Destroy that statue asap
I'm gonna fly over from MI and do it myself if you cucks don't handle ya business quick.
For statues like this that do not belong in America, lets make a huge history park somewhere, in the middle of the country, where people can walk along and look at all the communist scum that killed millions and millions in the world. Lets start with this one. Lets really do up the Anti Communist History park. Walk along and read about how many died after they established gun control. We could even call it the 2nd Amendment park. Sound good?
WE can START with all the scum in this historical documentary on Gun Control by JPFO. A statue of each Communist scum for the park, please. We can move this Jack ass murderer there first, then, I am sure there are others. If not, we make them.
Innocents Betrayed: The History of Gun Control
Melt it down and replace it with a bronze statue of President Trump!
No but he will be in 20-25 years if we don't stick this out!
Maybe it's the libertarian in me, but perhaps we shouldn't be demanding that anything we see as offensive be torn down. America hating leftists seem to have a lock on that stuff.
It was built in the USSR, bought by some liberal in the US, and then shipped over.
It often gets vandalized because there are obviously lots of Americans like me and you all who hate that communist bullshit. I enjoy the days when it has blood painted on his hands, which seems to be quite often these days.
So can I put a huge, beaming Uncle Adolf on my pavillion in town, and demand 10 mil for Soros to buy?
Ok. Lee gets to stay. But we are gonna dress him in drag every year.
I want to see people capitalize on that statue more. Kids should learn entrepreneurship by operating Leninade stands there. They should sell shirts and cards...let it stand as a co opted symbol of the free market.
Communism is the philosophy of power-at-all-costs, disguised as altruism. Lefties have a habit of telling the polar opposite of the truth.
It's in Fremont at North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North. It's huge, nearly 20 feet tall, so it is hard to miss.
People on the far left still deny the Holodomor, or worse, say the Ukrainians deserved it. Go check the socialism or communism subreddits if you don't believe me. They are sick fucks.
EDIT: examples of denial on the left
This page is fun because they removed comments contradicting their narrative.
EDIT 2: http://i.magaimg.net/img/15jt.png People asking if it even happened.
I honestly believe the reason it's not more well known today is that historians and teachers have left-leaning biases, so they are timid about talking about the topic at all. So they go study and teach something else. And as a result, people forget.
I like the lenin statue. Its weird. Its usually covered in red paint on his face and hands. They dress him up on halloween and put lights on him during christmas. Hes surrounded by little stores and restaurants. Its more of a mockery than honoring the dude, him being an atheist and a commie now hes forced to celebrate Jesus and dwell amongst the capitalists.
I could care less tho.
YOUR MISSING IT . NO put signs around it defending it. Nice pretty signs.
"We must protect our heritage ! #SaveLenin !" This will create havoc.
Glad to see Venezuela sticking to the plan after 100 years.
It's a beloved icon of Fremont. It isn't considered an honor or memorial for Lenin, just one of the quirks of Seattle - from back before we were Silicon Valley 2.0
Even Spez is shitting on Lenin, now that's proving something.
Which is one of the most ironic things I have seen.
It's the sort of shit I wouldn't be surprised to see in North Korea.
Striding forward with a scowl on his face and surrounded by flames and the symbols of war this 16 foot tall bronze sculpture of Lenin looks particularly fierce, so it is all the more out of place in the friendly neighborhood of Fremont, located just outside of Seattle.
The statue was made in 1988 by Emil Venkov for the communist republic of then Czechoslovakia. The solid bronze statue was built to last but communist Czechoslovakia wasn’t and only a year later in 1989 communism fell during the now famous “velvet revolution.” The brand new statue was sent to the scrapyard.
Lewis E. Carpenter, an ex-pat from Issaquah, Washington living in the Czech Republic found the statue ready to be melted down and fell in love. He saw an artistic work that deserved to be preserved. At a total cost of $41,000 Carpenter bought the statue and shipped it back to Washington despite the general feelings from many residents that the statue and what it represented was abhorrent.
Sadly in 1994, Carpenter was killed in a car accident leaving the statue once again in limbo. After being shuffled around it found a home in nearby Fremont appropriately only a block from a salvaged Cold War rocket fuselage.
While Fremont may at first seem an odd home for the statue, it is a more appropriate location then first appears. Known as “The People’s Republic of Fremont” and”The Artists’ Republic of Fremont,” it was once a hotbed of radical politics and counterculture, and despite gentrifying a bit with age it is still home to a vibrant artistic community.
Besides being near the rocket fuselage, the angry Lenin is close to the Fremont Troll, a giant concrete troll crushing a car, and sign with such advice as “throw your watch away.” Lenin himself is the victim of various artistic exuberance and has appeared dressed as John Lennon, adorned with a red star during Christmas, in drag during gay pride week, painted as a clown, and his head is a prized seat during parades. In this context the scowling Lenin almost looks like he is in on the joke.
Should you fall in love with the Lenin as much as Carpenter did you can have it for yourself. As of 2006 the Lenin sculpture was on sale for $250,000 dollars.
Preserving history and glorifying a mass murderer with a bronze statue in your home town are two entirely separate things.
Sounds like it's on private property.
Thank you! It truly is a cocked area.
Every confederate soldier received a pardon after the civil war.
That statue is not our history and it does not need to be preserve. It needs to be torn down and torn down now!
The Carpenter family continues to seek a buyer for the statue. As of 2015 the asking price is $250,000, up from a 1996 price tag of $150,000.
We could buy it for $250k and melt it down.
You call it an idol as if it operates like one but it's just a weird curio, it's not worshiped in Seattle at all. On the wikipedia page you can read that its been decorated in bizarre outfits and vandalized from time to time. People shouldn't be up in arms over a statue.
Antifa would have no problems vandalizing your private property.
According to wikipedia, the owners are asking $250,000 for it.
Umm the "opposition" who gets paid to act like dumb fucks and TOLD what to be pissed about are going after American historical figures who were heros of their time. Lenin was not American and also a mass murderer. There is no historical reason to have that in the middle of Seattle except to piss people off while declaring that they're somehow the enlightened ones. This coming from the same people who have strokes over park benches, plaques or statues that say "God" anywhere on them.
now that's some crowdfunding I could get behind.
Most of them seem to have no idea that Lenin was involved at all in the massacres; two people defending the statue thought it was a statue of Stalin.
And what about the statue of Robert E. Lee? Are we all ISIS now, destroying our history?
If the left doesn't want Russia to be our ally, why do they have a statue of one of the most prominent Russian leaders in a predominantly liberal city?
TO THE TOP
Do you have the same opinion regarding Confederate monuments in the South?
If you read over the text you quoted, you're going to answer your question
How do you think this statue came to be?
It was in a scrapyard in Poprad, Slovakia after the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia until an English teacher from WA bought it since he saw it as a nice looking statue. You can read the Wikipedia page.
I have ancesters killed on both sides. Leave the confedrate war memorials and statues alone
Why would you want to reward people who clearly hate America? Anything over scrap price- labor and delivery to a scrapyard is overpaying.
Paint a clown face on him.
Holy fuck why was this built in the first place??
I disagree. That's a tactic of the America hating left. People who love liberty need to refrain from that shit, no matter how tempting it may seem.
What happened to "I may hate your speech, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it?" I understand the populist thrill in just ripping stuff down, like when our soldiers ripped down the Saddam statue in Iraq, but it's really bad form for people who claim the moral high ground of liberty.
Tearing stuff down is the fascist way.
I think people are pointing out the irony that Leftists will not tolerate Confederate landmarks but this murderous cunt is allowed to sit in the town square no problem. It's literally worse than if a bronze monument to Hitler we're in the town.
Communism and Nazism are the same evils with a different mask.
They don't know these things because they were never taught actual history in school. School systems all over the world have done a fine job of shitting out useful idiots. Out of curiosity, how many that dm'ed you did not know that millions have died under communism and socialism?
two people defending the statue thought it was a statue of Stalin.
Somehow, I'm not surprised.
People shouldn't be up in arms over a statue.
Probably not. Do you have the same opinion regarding Confederate monuments in the South?
it's just a weird curio
Very weird. In fact, it's a bit too weird. Tell me. How do you think this statue came to be?
I grew up in Seattle. Can confirm it's real. Can also confirm I have a photo of the statue wearing a new years hat while someone who looks like me is pissing on it. No I will not share it. It's framed somewhere were the kids can't see it.
You don't even have to go that far left. I've seen people defending the Ukranian genocide in redacted.
It's down the street from the Pol Pot statue.
Did you mean "Democratic party"?
How does the The Gorton’s Fisherman have anything to do with this? I mean I know Seattle loves its fishing industry a bit too much, but they have every right to have a salty old man be a statue in their city.
There's a big difference when not judging a historical figure's stances on race and equality when at the same time of his life there was a large collection of people in opposition to slavery that fought on the other side of the aisle. Is it true that sometimes historical figures should not be judged by today's standards? Absolutely. But the man chose to command an army on the side of the aisle that knew damn well that their "way of life" involved keeping and trading human beings as property. And I'm sorry but that shouldn't be justified by anyone's standards, especially within the confines of a country that founded itself on the freedoms and rights of "all" people.
Modern Russians have no love for Lenin. He promised them a utopia and they got a paranoid, poverty stricken, and overbearing state that persecuted its people mercilessly.
Yes. History is History. Its both Good and Bad. Youd have to be an idiot to only educate about the good and none of the bad.
None of you who upvoted live here, do you? My great grandparents were killed in the gulag and I take part in the lighting if the menorah on his head every year. It's lovely.
I honestly don't see what Robert E. Lee did wrong. He was a Virginian. Virginia joined the confederacy. The confederacy began a shooting war lost and he was sensible enough to surrender, send his men home and did what he could to make sure the peace held after the war. War is a savage business. We should be glad some men can be gentleman during its conduct.
You are frighteningly correct!
Yes, I know that, I'm not defending Lenin in any way, I'm just not a fan of tearing down statues
Seattle has an openly gay pedophile for a mayor. It's so cucked that NK wouldn't bother nuking it, or that seems to be their hope.
"City property" its just like how the space needle is privately owned but it gets tax breaks because it is a city icon, yet one is a beacon of capitalism wheras the other is of communism cucked figs.
Sounds like a date.
Maybe thermite is a better option.
How the fuck is this statue up in an AMERICAN CITY
I like this idea. A Lenin statue in Seattle begs for IRL shitposting. The memes practically write themselves.
How did you know my true identity? :C
Wtf I love Lenin now!
Don't act like the opposition.