Man, if only there was some department in the government that he could use as a resource to stop these embarrassing gaffes.
Donald: "That's what Xi said."
Who knew history could be so complicated?
South Korea’s government wants to know whether Chinese President Xi Jinping gave alternative facts on the nation’s history to Donald Trump.
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal last week, Trump said Xi told him during a recent summit that “Korea actually used to be a part of China.” The comments sparked outrage in Seoul and became an issue in South Korea’s presidential race, prompting the foreign ministry to seek to verify what Xi actually said.
“It’s a clear fact acknowledged by the international community that, for thousands of years in history, Korea has never been part of China,” foreign ministry spokesman Cho June-hyuck said at a briefing in Seoul on Thursday.
Ah, Xi could have told him that Bulgaria used to be part of China, and this simpleton would parrot it on twitter and in meetings, for all to hear.
He has the brain of a child.
Well, unless you mean the military that department probably has no staff.
I love it. He actually doesn't know anything
Korea was in fact a tributary state to China for a long time, as were many of China's neighbors. That doesn't mean China owned those countries though. What it meant was those countries occasionally sent a delegation to kowtow before the emperor and present a few trinkets as a mostly symbolic gesture. It was the refusal of Britain's Macartney embassy to do the same that increased friction in Sino-British relations just as things were to further sour when British and American traders started flooding Chinese markets with opium. If anyone owned Korea, it was Japan for the first half of the 20th century, but US presidents would do well not to pick at that scab. Doing so would do as much good as a US president reminding Poland it was once "part of" Germany and Russia.
Gonna need another 10 minute lesson.
Spicer: "South Korea was indeed part of China. The President has ordered a full investigation and we will release a report in 90 days. We can't comment on it any further but the President has no doubt the facts will bear this out. Next question?"
And T_D would then claim it as fact. Sigh.
Use military to take over South Korea then give it to China to validate an ill-informed tweet
Need another "beautiful " chocolate cake too. I think cake and golf are the only way he can take any new information in.
T_D right now isn't even posting political things. At all. It's entirely anti-sjw, it may as well be any cringe or red pill sub.
Trump is so easily manipulated it's embarrassing for the entire human race.
There are only two possibilities here. Either Trump is so fucking stupid that Xi told him this and he believed it, and did zero fact checking on the matter before immediately parroting this.
Or Xi did not tell him this and he is so fucking stupid that whatever Xi said equated to "Korea used to be a part of China."
Either way, he's a moron.
Spicer: You know this a belief the President has maintained for a long time.
I'm a chef who has worked in rich, aristocratic clubs in south Florida. This is completely normal. Old folks from the northeast who vacation in Florida, the professional snow birds, love terrible food. They're "salt-free", sauce on the side, well done steak, extra ketchup types. Its culinary hell.
You forgot about the $19.99 bottle of red wine that was served. To the f*cking president of China.
Chalk Hill Chardonnay 2014 - $17.49
Girard Cabernet 2014 - $24.99 (was off by a little)
As a professional chef, the menu blows my mind as well. I know official functions shouldn't be expected to have interesting menus, but that one looks about 110 years old. Escoffier would probably call it "old-fashioned".
It has been suggested that Donald Trump's position on a particular issue is based on the opinion of the last person he spoke with about the issue. That would be funny if the Chinese government intentionally fed him this falsehood, that they knew he couldn't resist repeating, to see if he would repeat it without verifying it's authenticity.
He has the brain of a child.
I've met children far more intelligent than Trump. Leave them out of this.
Believe me, he is the least knowing person you will ever meet.
A department in a high school would suffice for most.
Like teaching history to Kelly Bundy.
One high schooler with a laptop working part time would be an improvement over this
Trump should try to smooth over the situation by saying that he actually meant that Korea was once part of Japan. And so was China.
Watching Spicer trying to defend statements like that would be immensely entertaining.
There's no policy discussion there, it's just a anti-Muslim hate group with some antisemitism and anti-black hate as well.
I've been trying to tell everyone I know: The Chinese are laughing their asses off at us and licking their chops. They know the US President is a dumbass and the US electorate is too deranged to stand up to them.
Please don't give him any ideas.
Well, the Golden Horde once ruled in Bulgaria and in parts of China, so totally a fact /s
Do you know how to golf? You should be on the presidential payroll.
Embarrassing for the US people maybe, but seen from Europe this is very funny.
Being president of the USA, Trump could probably even arrange for a 24/7 "live human fact checking" earpiece that could pull up any piece of information at any time and relay it back to him in the most nicest and "all hail the dear leader" sort of response. Would cost less than his Nightmare-a-lago trips to setup a small office of 6 intelligent folks, taking turns working round the clock, and with voice transmission technology that would never get interrupted.
Yeah, throwing endless amount of praise to your boss is part of the job description, but hey, at least they get the facts in order! Alas, when curiosity is dead, don't think this piece of human garbage is going to improve anytime soon.
"Wrong. Wrong. It's the same thing. It's always been the same thing. Everybody knows this folks, everybody. The Fake News from South Korea is bad, so bad. Everybody knows this. South America has always been a part of China."
"You mean South Korea."
I know y'all are laughing at us, but we're still keeping a close eye on the French election.
Please don't make the same mistakes we did, treat us as a cautionary tale. It's definitely not funny over here.
The cautionary tale was Brexit and you fuckers still didn't learn
can i just say this reminds me of a quote from one of my favorite series?
"He's Black Council," I said.
"Or maybe stupid," Ebenezar countered.
I thought about it. "Not sure which is scarier."
Ebenezar blinked at me, then snorted. "Stupid, Hoss. Every time. Only so many blackhearted villains in the world, and they only get uppity on occasion. Stupid's everywhere, every day."
He’ll have forgotten already.
Truth, as far as he’s concerned, is what pops into his grabby little rodent brain in the moment.
Found Spicer's reddit account
Either Trump is so fucking stupid that Xi told him this and he believed it, and did zero fact checking on the matter before immediately parroting this.
If this is true, then the master negotiator just announced to the world that he has no idea when Xi is lying to him or not.
Trump tried to show strength by dropping one of the largest bombs in history and Xi dominated him with some quiet conversation.
Pinyin-illiterates will not get this hilarious pun.
Iraq, Syria, Yemen, what's the difference? They're all "over there."
He's putting words in Xi mouth no doubt, I'm sure that will go well for US/China relations.
The dumbest part of all is this quote really wasn't relevant to what he was trying to say about Xi in the first place. It was just him speaking fucking nonsense as usual.
Don't forget the anti-trans hate
Too busy bombing random villages in the middle east all willy nilly.
Source? Because that's bloody hilarious and shameful if true.
He is so out of his league when compared to leaders from other countries. Abe, Merkel were just dumbfounded how amateurish he is and Xi is playing him like a fiddle. He is a child compared to them.
Did you even know that Lincoln was a republican?
Nobody talks about dams anymore.
To be fair the Korean Peninsula used to be connected to the Chinese mainland during the Pangea era.
I'm pretty sure most of us know how Xi Jinping's name is pronounced
Don't forget women. Women suck too... Or at least if we try to do anything besides have sex with them and make them sandwiches.... or you know... talk and think and stuff.
Or scary, when it comes to certain parts of his foreign policies...
The color of their skin is probably the most important thing for Trump. Easiest way of keeping up with who's a bad hombre.
Being president of the USA, Trump could probably even arrange for a 24/7 "live human fact checking" earpiece that could pull up any piece of information at any time and relay it back to him in the most nicest and "all hail the dear leader" sort of response.
Sadly, Trump's ego will never allow him to actually admit he needs this. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he doubled down and kept trying to argue with Korea about this.
Just avoid anything Trump related and you'll be fine.
Words to live by.
I hate the term "alternative facts" it's not a friggin "alternative fact" it's a falsehood. An untrue statement.
This is my nightmare. I'm never going to Florida.
I honestly wonder if Xi really said this or if Trump is making up yet another lie for no real purpose. If he did actually say it I have to wonder if other world leaders are starting to realize Trump picks up on what ever was most recently said and runs with it. This could have been a little factoid slipped into the conversation they had as a way to see if Trump can be so easily manipulated and in the future use it to their advantage. Or Trump just made up a fact that now strains relations with South Korea for saying this and also with China for getting them involved in one of his gaffes. Either way is not good.
If it was in an interview I can hear him saying it without ever heaving heard it.
"and by the way, Xi is a tremendous guy, really smart guy, he told me Korea used to be part of China."
Just some thought inserted into the middle of some other incoherent sentence.
So you're saying I could have an internship?
As a South Korean, We learn that koreans called china the "father's nation" and looked up to them.
Korea was unofficially a bottom bitch to china, why do koreans get butthurt over this?
Chinese characters (that japanese burrow and still use to this day) were what affluent, upper class people used , with superiourity complex over peasants. China was this advanced great progressive country back in the day and koreans sent their people over to china to learn from them, it's like how now koreans send their kids to America.
Basically the return of /sub/coontown.
Or alternatively "because we thought everyone knew that?"
Unfortunately, I'm a terrible golfer. I also don't know how much patience the president has to get a history lesson more nuanced than the soundbyte Xi apparently gave him.
"KOREA IS PART OF ASIA AND ASIA IS DEFINITELY CHINA, SO KOREA IS PART OF CHINA WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND??" - Trumpy Spice via Seany Spice
To be fair, he just sits there and nods like a dumbass while domestic leaders speak English using words he doesn't understand.
It still is, but it was in Pangaea too.
The best at knowing nothing!
Great how that's presented as a reasonable explanation. "Oh, ok. He's always been an idiot. No problem then."
He knows things, just untrue thing.
Trump doesn't read or attend intelligence briefings, but he watches Fox and Friends every day.
I see no typos or mention of the ice cream of the future
And the average Trump voter will still be none the wiser.
I'm rather relieved though that Trump has done an about face from his tough talk against China during the campaign. That's not to say China should get a free pass on everything it does, but I would rather we hold off on keeping China accountable until we have a leader who can do so in a measured and responsible way. China is getting more assertive, but it is not as if its tanks are rolling into other countries. We can wait four years. What worries me is that hawks in the US may push back against Trump's reversal. We are at a point now that China's overtaking of US GDP is starting to be felt. This is a historical moment ripe for some epic miscalculation or overplay by the US, especially with the US being a waning power that still believes it is exceptional and divinely favored and that there is no limit to what it can do so long as its people believe strongly enough.
Just imagine how scary things would be if he read comics and watched cartoons. Shit, wile e coyote would be Secretary of defense.
"I'm sorry Mr. President. We didn't know anyone, let alone the President of the United States, could possibly be so stupid as to think and then say something like this. In the future we will assume you have the intellect of a 3 year old who has eaten many lead paint chips. Again, we are sorry."
Depends, how good is your Russian?
Yea, no one outside US really respects him. He is a bumbling fool that represent everything wrong about America that people fear.
I can see the next day's cabinet meeting where Trump yells at everybody: "Why the fuck didn't anybody tell me this beforehand?"
His entire cabinet looks around and says "Uh, because we didn't know."
Country club fare. I've literally had that type of menu at wedding receptions in country clubs.
Did they go to the flea market together afterward? Is his next big diplomatic meeting going to be at The Olive Garden?
The two essentially switched places on the issue of the powers and control the federal government should have when FDR was elected. At some point following the Civil War and prior to when FDR came in (Probably with Theodore Roosevelt), the democrats made a switch from small government to big government policies, and the republicans did the opposite. Historically, these parties and ideologies have always stayed in the same states (democrats of the past have the same beliefs as the republicans of today, and their areas of control are about the same).
So yeah, that whole "party of Lincoln" thing works in name only. It's just something to parade out with the confederate flag during April, which just so happens to be Confederate Heritage month.
But without that trademark Bundy class.
I know, it's hilarious. Propaganda lockdown.
Well, actually... the Yuan dynasty was more than just a tributary overlord to Korea. They actually exercised considerable control over Korea's domestic and foreign policies at the time, and could depose kings at will - which is why most maps show Korea as being part of the Mongol Empire. The Yuan dynasty comes closest to being a 'Chinese' empire that actually ruled Korea.
Having said that, the Yuan dynasty was Mongol through and through. They were incredibly nasty to the Han Chinese and they never Sinicized - which is a big reason why Mongolia still survives as a separate state. So a more accurate depiction might be to state that the Mongols established an apartheid regime in China, like they did in half the world, and that apartheid regime also ruled Korea.
Tell that to Kellyanne. She invented the "concept" and Trump supporters seem to have embraced it.
The rest of the world has adopted it as a tongue-in-cheek way to call out BS.
I don't think Trump fucks with Pangaea.
"Sometimes I'll start a sentence, and I don't even know where it's going. I just hope I find it along the way. Like an improv conversation. An improversation."Michael Scott
He won't even use an earpiece to get translations for languages he doesn't speak when he's meeting with foreign leaders. He just sits there and nods like a dumbass while foreign leaders speak languages he doesn't understand.
Oh. Oh God, eww.
Visiting that sub is like walking into a fart cloud.
The Anglosphere is having an inbred fuckfest! No francophones allowed!
South Florida has some of the best food in the country. Just avoid anything Trump related and you'll be fine.
I would guess (based on posts, and the occasional masochistic skimming of places like 4chan) most of their mentality is: "lol. Tits or GTFO. Go to the kitchen and make me a sandwich"... "Why don't women ever go for nice guys like me."
At least as far as T_D goes. For most of the actual religious right political party, it's more of getting back to their roots of women "knowing their place".
The group really does long for their perceived view of the 50's when affluent white christian males ruled everything.
Is his next big diplomatic meeting going to be at The Olive Garden?
No, he's saving that trip for when he hosts the Italian Prime Minister. Or his Italian cousin, Silvio Berlusconi.
Ugh. This is some "If Michael Scott were President" shit.
It turned orange from the original red, and vestigial tail and horns were lost over time.
Right? Strip, mashed potatoes and roasted veggies? In Florida? In the spring? You couldn't come up with anything better?
To be fair Trump loves meatloaf, eats his steak well done with ketchup and is well known for his love of fast food.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 59%. (I'm a bot)
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal last week, Trump said Xi told him during a recent summit that "Korea actually used to be a part of China." The comments sparked outrage in Seoul and became an issue in South Korea's presidential race, prompting the foreign ministry to seek to verify what Xi actually said.
"It's a clear fact acknowledged by the international community that, for thousands of years in history, Korea has never been part of China," foreign ministry spokesman Cho June-hyuck said at a briefing in Seoul on Thursday.
Xi's explanation of the historical relationship made Trump realize that it's "Not so easy" for China to influence North Korea to give up its nuclear program, the newspaper quoted the U.S. president as saying.
In other breaking alternative news: Alaska is Russian land