[Sirus] David Griffin on Kyrie's trade request: "Everybody wants to find that silver bullet that made everything end. It wasn't that, it was a gradual day-to-day thing, the evolution of a young guy."

[Sirus] David Griffin on Kyrie's trade request: "Everybody wants to find that silver bullet that ...

Young up and comer who (rightfully so) thinks he deserves recognition as a superstar and the face of a team gradually gets annoyed, sitting in the shadow and treated as a little brother to Lebron who gets all the credit for their title. That's what probably happened. What I like to think happened was Lebron and the dudes made fun of him about the earth being round and him sounding like a dingus and he put his hood on and vowed: "never again".

Young up and comer who (rightfully so) thinks he deserves recognition as a superstar and the face of a team gradually gets annoyed, sitting in the shadow and treated as a little brother

This also happened to Tracy McGrady playing with Vince Carter in Toronto.

And to Kobe.

Chemicals in the water? A second shooter perhaps?

Kyrie probably also wanted a real coach, not lecoach and being in LeBron's shadow.

That is usually how things work out in real life, ie: a dramatic divorce in a film happens due to one cosmic event, but in reality its more like death by a thousand cuts. It accumulates and you cant take it anymore.

Im still amazed that he knew he wanted out just after they wont the championship. That is some anti-KD mindset.

You have to be very agitated and miserable to want to leave a championship team, with the best player in the league, a city that loves you and sees as their son and the green light to just iso all day everyday. Technically that should be most player's wet dream. Russ would kill to be in that spot.

just look at what Lebron does when things aren't going right...

passive aggressive tweets on Twitter taking shots at your teammates, posting Arthur memes on IG, all sorts of weird shit without being direct

the real "kid" here was Lebron. Kyrie probably grew tired of it, the unnecessary drama, and not getting any credit while shouldering the blame

I think he just wanted to take on the challenge of leading a team on his own.

Kobe split from Shaq at around the same age, and knowing how much Kobe is in his ear, I'm going to assume he just egged him on to take that challenge and cement his status as a legend - apart from Lebron. I remember reports of Kobe saying the same kind of things to Russell during the summer of Team USA in 2012.

Yeah, probably but I still refuse to believe that there weren't some larger events that helped cause this.

I'll take the latter of the two options please.

LeBron sent some typical shade towards Kyrie with a IG post around that time too

I think the truth is more boring than we thought. I think Kyrie just got tired of playing with Lebron, which is kind of crazy to think of but Kyrie is a weird dude. I can totally see the appeal of wanting to play for a team like the Celtics. I know Cleveland is a great team but it just looks no fun to play there, the defense sucks and the ball just doesn't move on offense a lot. Those wide open 3's would be nice though.

Chem trails? MK ULTRA?

Nah, as PG he gets to set himself up as the captain of the team, especially bc hayward is injured. When hayward comes back celts go to the chip, and if they beat the warriors (here's hoping) they will be talked about as all time legends.

Griff really frames the beginning of it as a kid who was allowed to just do whatever he wanted on the floor without accountability and got accustomed to it. When LeBron showed up, that had to stop, and Kyrie was never feeling it.

Yeah, you haven’t heard what happened behind the scenes? LeBron patted Kyrie after every game and called him a kid, and also tried to teach him about new scientific findings and Kyrie wasn’t having any of that anymore.

That would be easier to believe if he wasn't playing the best defense of his career in Boston.

He doesnt really get that chance in Boston though. Got 4-5 super solid guys around him. He's likely not going to put up dominating numbers.

Cleveland is actually pretty dope. A fucking incredible art museum, a decent downtown that is still small enough to walk around in (providing for the weather), decent time to both Chicago and Pittsburgh (two other great cities), and enough great dive bars to lose a couple years of life in.

If people want the America that is on CBS evening sitcoms, then sure, probably won't find it in Cleveland... might have to go out to the 'burbs to get, but it's currently at the top of my list of places to move to.

Plus when water becomes a privatized resource, having a lake nearby isn't a bad idea.

"world's worst not bad city*" I could think of a shit ton of cities that are worse than Cleveland. Cleveland is just one of the worst that can support a bunch of major sports franchises.