Russia considers banning sale of cigarettes to anyone born after 2015

Russia considers banning sale of cigarettes to anyone born after 2015
Russia considers banning sale of cigarettes to anyone born after 2015

It's a great idea. Old people will be able to support themselves selling ciggies to youths.

Pension problem solved. Next!

Prohibition doesn't work, it just increases crime.

For anyone wondering why Russia, why is this necessary. Let me show you a map: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:World_map_of_countries_by_number_of_cigarettes_smoked_per...

So 2-year-olds can't smoke in Russia? Evil bastards!

Think how awesome it would be 90 years from now to be one of the few Russians alive that is legally allowed to buy cigarettes.

Edit: I obviously didn't think this through very well, as some have pointed out.

Yeah! Still #1 in something, baby!

Holly shit, Greece!

however, all water is being replaced with Vodka after 2015

They'll just get cigarettes from the 3 year olds.

You had the best military 2,500 years ago!

Edit: For those saying Rome. You're forgetting Alexander the Great, who had come before the Romans. (thanks /u/ElvinDrude). Alexander conquered most of the known world by the time of his death at the age of 32, and was undefeated in battle.

Well in solving one problem, we seem to have inadvertently created an additional problem: a select few elderly have created a monopoly on illegal ciggie dealings to youth, now the rest of the eligible population is struggling to maintain their pack a day minimum (paired with their quart of vodka, of course) and thus the whole Russian way of life may die out.

SKINNER Well, I was wrong. The lizards are a godsend.

LISA But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?

SKINNER No problem. We simply unleash wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

LISA But aren't the snakes even worse?

SKINNER Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

LISA But then we're stuck with gorillas!

SKINNER No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

Would they even sell cigarettes outside of specialty stores in big cities at that point? Considering the demand is so low.

It's like we've learned nothing from the war on drugs.

This is even worse. You're taking something that is part of many cultures for centuries and taking it away.

Edit: Since I keep getting the same reply. Being part of a culture is not a reason to keep doing something that is bad. Cigarettes are bad for people. Prohibition is not an effective means of stopping addictive drug use. It will be made even more problematic because cigarettes are ingrained in cultures across the world, much like alcohol was in the US during prohibition.

The US smokes more cigarettes on average than France? But.. my stereotypes..

'Hey you, wanna buy some good shit, it will fuck you up like no tomorrow!'

'Whatya got there?'

'Real fucking Marlboro, shit you not!'

'Yeaah, riiight'

The number of smokers dropped by ten per cent in 2016, according to Tass news agency

I don't get it. Why risk the chance of creating a black market when the problem is already being solved?

Cause Ethel down the block sells the good shit, you cheap bastard.

Cigarettes would be delivered by armed flying drones. Or, there would be an automated hydroponic system making them. Or, we'll transcend the need for bodies into pure energy forms. Or, our irradiated, desiccated bodies will still not be decaying.

Just make smoking "gay propaganda" and no one in Russia will ever smoke again

"Children under 4 shouldn't smoke!"

-Peter Griffin

Although, I wonder if people would really go to great lengths to have black market cigarettes, especially if they hadn't been a legal thing for your whole life. Sure, you get a little kick from a cigarette, but it's not like I would imagine alcohol prohibition would be. Could be wrong though.

That was the Romans.

Cigarettes are one of the most terrible things invented by man. Nothing positive, all negative. And not just for you but for people around you. Yet people still smoke just so they don't get withdrawals.

I quit smoking 15 years ago, but I've had 3 month relapses every 5 years or so...it's that addictive. One cigarette and I have to quit all over again 3 months later.

No, thats the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the old people simply freeze to death

That's how the Russian's beat <INSERT NATION HERE> in <INSERT WAR HERE>

FIFY

Eh, close enough.

-- Brought to you by the Kanye "keep it 300, like the Romans" West school of research.

It's not the only proposal. It's a huge anti-tobacco bill to be presented soon.

In short: smoking ban for people born after 2015. Chewing and nasal snuff tobacco ban. Flavored cigarettes - ban. Raise fees for cigarette imports and production. Introduce fees for e-cigarettes. Enlarge warning signs on cigarette packs.

It also can be good for all ex-Soviet countries, because they tend to copy Russian bills.

That's how the Russians beat The United Confederacy of Mars in The French Revolution.

Half my job in Iraq was intercepting cigarette smugglers from Iraq into Syria where cigarettes were illegal. Truck loads!!!

When you're 92 years old and smoking with a brand new set of artificial lungs.

Well if history tells us anything about drug prohibition, this will result in more gangs and dealers. Novel idea though. Bans in public places and changing the social stigma seems to have had a great effect elsewhere.

French health ministry is taking measures (ban in some places, rising taxes, ...) to gradually reduce the cigarette consumption. French smoke way less than 10 or 20 years ago.

http://inpes.santepubliquefrance.fr/10000/themes/tabac/img/vent_cig2014.jpg

Red : price for 20 cigarettes

Blue : cigarettes sold (billion)

French smoke less and less, RIP stereotype :o 

Edit : also lot of advertising against cigarette, ban on cigarette advertising, people more aware of lung cancer trying to stop smoking, vap, ... : multiple factors involved.

French health ministry is taking measures (ban in some places, rising taxes, ...) to gradually reduce the cigarette consumption. French smoke way less than 10 or 20 years ago.

Red : price for 20 cigarettes

Blue : cigarettes sold (billion)

French smoke less and less, RIP stereotype :o

Edit : also lot of advertising against cigarette, ban on cigarette advertising, people more aware of lung cancer trying to stop smoking, vap, ... : multiple factors involved.

That's how the Russian's beat the Germans in WWII.

Kinda like Apple.

Seems to be a fair trade.

The article is slightly inaccurate... The Tass articles states it actually dropped by ten percentage points (from 41% of people to 31%) almost 25% since 2009.

Alexander the Great, born in Macedonia which is in present-day Greece, certainly did have a world-renown army. He conquered Greece, Turkey, Egypt, and controlled most of the land all the way to India, so most of the Middle East. Unfortunately it didn't last long after he died.

When has prohibition ever solved an issue rather than exacerbate it?

The other half of his job was probably making sure bombs, guns, and people weren't in those trucks.

In India you don't need cigarettes because the air is already full of smoke.

"500,000-pack-a-day smoker celebrates 120th birthday"

Mad Libs! Whooo!

That's how the Russians beat penis in penis

Pff forget that. I'd just start selling dried up grass clippings from my lawn as tobacco, how would they know the difference.

Olga

this wouldn't be the same. they aren't just cutting people off. this would be like a transition so the next generation would not smoke. it probably wouldn't work 100% but there would definitely be a huge decline in smokers.

Ethel? You mean Svetlana?

Nah, the Greeks had a window of military greatness around 500-300 BC, Rome wasn't shit until after Alexander the Great's time.

New theory: cigarette companies realize sales are down, they want to make it edgy and cool again, so by banning it making kids want to smoke. Genius

I saw a claw machine with cigarettes in it when I was in a small town in Greece. It was right next to the one for kids that had stuffed animals in it.

Edit: Here's a photo for the non-believers. Everything anyone says has to be fake just because you've never seen it, right? You guys suck.

I saw a claw machine with cigarettes in it when I was in a small town in Greece. It was right next to the one for kids that had stuffed animals in it.

Edit: . Everything anyone says has to be fake just because you've never seen it, right? You guys suck.

This is an anti-smoking advertisement from a few years ago in France.

from a few years ago in France.

To say it didn't last long is a bit of an understatement. The moment he died it tore apart.

Idk about you but the god awful truth commericals that are just dubstep and memes make me want to smoke a whole pack at once.

Conquered the world in self defense.

Honestly I think babies should be allowed to make that decision for themselves.

Although, I wonder if people would really go to great lengths to have black market cigarettes,

They will and do. They're not even illegal here in Canada and we have a black market for cigs just to avoid paying the tax.

But your lungs were manufactured after 2015.

You're damn right!

I'll stick with cocaine, at least I have palpable positive effects when using it.

Someone do the math on this and figure out how many cigs a minute you'd have to smoke to do this. I'm American and we banned good education for anyone born after 1964

French being huge smokers is a stereotype born from what french society looked like in the '50s and the '60s. Everybody was smoking back then. Nowadays, not so much.

pack a day and quart of vodka.

That was my routine for the past 5 years.

9 months sober and 2 months cig free now. Life is good!

Microbeads?

Look, I love Kanye, but that's a ridiculous reach.

That's just NYC. In soviet Russia, Olga meets you.

'Dude this is Marlbolous'

I went to France and literally everyone was smoking constantly. No US cities I've been to has that.

Everyone forgot Carthage. If Hannibal had gotten the support he needed from his government there might not have even been a Rome. It was the destruction of Carthage that allowed Rome to evolve from just a local power to an empire. Rome sure was scared for a while though.

Why not? They've done it before with anti-smoking campaigns that successfully INCREASED teen smoking

I don't know I was in Paris last month and it seemed like way more people were smoking than in the states.

Just because nobody invites you to microbead parties doesn't mean they don't exist.

Aren't there bigger problems in Syria that should be enforced before spending any resources on enforcing cigarette bans?

Some could say if not for Carthage and Rome's animosity though, the history of the Western world would be very different. At first, Rome didn't want to expand at all, but it found itself at war with everyone. As it continued defeating and allying with more and more cities, it sort of just realized that, "Hey, we're pretty good at this, let's do it some more."

Until you're drunk and want that sweet sweet nicotine.

It looks like that map is from 2007. In 2014 the number dropped to just over 2000 cigarettes per adult per year. Montenegro is at the top with a bit over 4100. Greece is still at the top in terms of how many people smoke tho. According to data from 2015 42% of greeks who are 15 years and older smoke tabacco.

This is an anti-smoking advertisement

My boner tells me it doesn't work

In some cities smoking might be healthier than not, just because of the filter...

It is drugs.

Baby needs to suck ash.

Same with China, but they smoke anyway.

Turns out the criminals were smuggling trucks into Syria this whole time.

Translation : « Smoking is being a slave to tobacco »

This isn't going to be popular here, but prohibition does work. It also increases crime (to the point that it might not be worth it) and deprives people of their rights.

Watch the Ken Burns documentary on Prohibition. Per capita alcohol consumption pre-prohibition was much higher than it was during and after.

Ah yes.. but isnt the roman numeral for 100 a C?.. So 300 would be CCC, 'Cool, Calm and Collected'?

I have no idea if that was the intent, i mean it's Kanye, but it's kinda neat.

Nothing positive, all negative

They make me feel real good. Especially with a coffee after a long day or some similar scenario.

We tried to cut demand of marijuana. That's what anti-Drug education was about. The difference is that the campaign against smoking uses actual science about how smoking is bad for you, the campaign against marijuana used a bunch of falsehoods to make it seem scary.

I'm happy I don't get addicted to cigs, that would have severely hurt my alcoholism in college.

F*** the police! You can pry my mircobeads from my cold dead hands! People will just make them in their bathtubs.

They did a good job letting me know what cancer feels like at least

Ah the future. So bright. And look, the Sun looks like a mushroom! And it's bigger than my thumb!

In the US we managed to cut smoking by incredible amounts through a massive advertising campaign. The US went after cutting demand, Russia wants to cut supply. Gee, I wonder which of these will lead to a vast black market and illegal importing industry.

This is even worse. You're taking something that is part of many cultures for centuries and taking it away.

That's not exactly a good argument, considering it supports slavery, racism, homophobia, child abuse, stoning people to death, living in caves, both the wearing and not wearing of clothes, several contradictory religions simultaneously, the celebrating and not celebrating of things like Christmas...

Every single civ game.

You try to go for a diplomatic or science victory and the next thing you know youve conquered the world because everyone kept going to war with you and you had to defend yourself.

A lot of young people, too. I was an American working in France several years ago in my early twenties, and it was definitely a different experience to find that every colleague in my age group but one was a smoker. At the same time, though, most of them only had maybe one cigarette after lunch and that was it. In the US, not as many people I knew seemed to smoke regularly, but the ones who did would smoke a lot.

If I had to hypothesize, I'd guess that a higher proportion of the French population smokes on a daily basis, but that smokers in the US are more likely to smoke a pack or two a day rather than just one or two.

Only those who have been in this situation understand the pain

It's amazing how many attractive young Olga's I have met in NYC .. At least 3 in the last couple years...

The future sounds awesome!

Except the Mongols. They stayed.

I might take up smoking in that case.

In Soviet Russia we kill cigarettes.

Simple. Then we ban crime.

I imagine amongst smokers the number is much higher - it's not that uncommon for people who've smoked for years to smoke 20 a day. That number is brought down to an average of 3-4 per day at a population level by the people who don't smoke any.

Cigarettes are one of the most terrible things invented by man.

Nevermind the health aspect - the fucking litter created by cigarettes in INSANE. Cigarettes give every decent person a supposed free-pass to litter these things anywhere they seem fit. I don't care if you're too stupid to stop smoking but stop fucking littering!

What's a Russian old woman name that has the same ring to it as Ethel? Svetlana sounds too young.

I've always wondered where the number of people smoking comes from. If it comes from the number of cigarettes sold they are missing something huge: 99% A ton of smokers who live near another country (like Spain or Belgium) just goes there to buy his cigs.

I'm in the North of France, very close to Belgium and most people go to Belgium to buy their cigs.

EDIT: The 99% is a "manner of speak" (dunno if this is the correct word) as I mean that most if not all the smokers I know buy their cigs in Belgium/Italy/Spain.

Better than changing nothing