Richard Stallman (left) Edward Snowden (center) Julian Assange (right) "YES WE CAN" (last night)

Richard Stallman (left) Edward Snowden (center) Julian Assange (right) "YES WE CAN" (last night)

A virtual cornucopia of societal rebels. These are brave men trying to do the right thing. I've been a Stallman fan since reading about his hacking exploits at MIT. One of my favorites was the locked door episode: they changed the locks after finding he copied the key, so he just pushed some ceiling tiles aside and climbed over the wall to get to the computer. Now that's hacking, lol!

I think what brings these three gentlemen together is freedoms. You have Stallman who believes in freedom of source code, Assange who believes in the freedom of information and Snowden who believes in freedom of privacy.

He's a genius. He used to get plenty of stick, even from the slashdot crowd, for practices like having web pages emailed to him to read offline.

I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program ... that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it.

I guess "who's laughing now" is a phrase that springs to mind but I doubt he'd say it.

I would argue that Stallman believes in the freedom of technology, not just software.

Lemote Yeeloong.

Fully free, all the way up from the firmware, IIRC.

I been an stallmanist since I first got gpl.

Hes an fundamentalist, but still right.

Stallman believes in the freedom of the user. Freedom of source code is just a pre-requisite for that, not the end-goal.

I occasionally use X11 for tasks that need graphics, but mostly I use a text console. I find that the text console is more efficient and convenient for the bulk of the work I do, which is editing text. I spend most of my time editing in Emacs. I read and send mail with Emacs using M-x rmail and C-x m. I have no experience with any other email client programs. In principle I would be glad to know about other free email clients, but learning about them is not a priority for me and I don't have time.

Good enough for him, I guess.

I guess kinda this way:

Linux - usually paired with GNU userland tools. RMS pretty much == GNU.

(kind of a stretch)

Woz is a genius and awesome. But he doesn't personally stand up for freedom the way these three have.

Anti-establishment != Linux-related

Stallman is sort of one of the patron saints of Linux. He's one of the central people that led to it being free and/or open source. Additionally, just about everything he says is about "a free operating system, comprised of 100% free software," the closest thing of course being Linux.

However, this is a picture of some guys holding a picture. It probably belongs in /sub/fsf before /sub/linux


Thanks for getting that point.

He's been right all along.

Its the first time anybody got that. Im at slashdot to, and got flamed for pointing out that he might just be right.

I should go hurd and brew my own firmware for my gear.

Funny how people made fun for my years trying to get an setup that was clean and ready for the dark ages.

Now Im ready.

All my recordings are in free formats, on open file systems and I have 5 years experience with wine for gaming.

Now enjoy your win8 stuff with drm ridden stream shit ;)

Stallman is sort of one of the patron saints of Linux. He's one of the central people that led to it being free and/or open source. Additionally, just about everything he says is about "a free operating system, comprised of 100% free software," the closest thing of course being Linux.

I wish more people here in /sub/linux showed as much appreciation and respect for RMS as you just did. It really bothers me whenever someone posts a comment like "why is this here in /sub/linux" whenever someone posts something about RMS. Linux wouldn't even fucking exist if not for RMS and his "radical" ideas about "free software". If it wasn't for him, we'd be stuck with even much worse and certainly more expensive software licensing from the capitalist scumbags over at Micro$oft, EA, etc.

I disagree.

So RMS visited the Ecuadorian consulate in London recently?

What's Stallman using as a laptop these days?

It was his bio. The same one where he described hacking the Chinese-language menu by ordering random items over time and extrapolating the results.

The great advocate of calling governments out on their injustices.

In a couple of years you wont even need wine for gaming. Native Linux ports are coming over at a crazy rate!

Shameless plug to my own subreddit here: /sub/yeeloong

I know :) it's awesome!!

Thank you gabe, now deliver hl3 linux exlusive and we hit 20% marketshare overnight.

Plz plz plz with sugar on the top.

By OS do you mean "open source?"

If so, rms would go on a tirade.

Yeah, that's still the same one I remember seeing. has a 900mhz processor.

I can't get on board with that.

Really that could just be any stereotypical linux user.

I believe they are all very connected. If you look at every one of those packages is free software. Stallman has never trusted proprietary software, hardware, or the cloud to not abuse his freedom (and right to privacy). The only defence against these government and corporate back doors is completely open hardware and software.

As a Lemote Yeeloong user myself, trust me: You need to disable scripts for even half-decent browsing. Maybe part of it is because the relevant JS libraries haven't been optimized specifically for MIPS as well as their x86 bretheren.

EDIT: Also, it's worth mentioning that the GPU in the Yeeloong has only 4 MB (yes, with an M) of VRAM and doesn't support any form of 3D acceleration, so I've only been able to watch some videos if the window doesn't take up the whole screen.

Unrelated, but I love the translation on the site:

"If you prefer warm inter-personal dialogs in solving problems, you can dial our hotline. Technical personnel will provide you with help in the first time."

I love warm, interpersonal dialogs, along with long walks on the beach.

Directed by Quentin Tarantino.

he's in the logo.

We sell printed copies of it at the FSF, but you can also download a PDF, or the original tex files if you are in the mood to update it.

Keep in mind that this guy doesn't browse the internet, but downloads pages with wget which get emailed to him.

900MHz can do X11 easily.. Probably most programs run fine, just cant go nuts with it. (And disabling scripts on webpages..)

You wouldn't even need to disable scripts. I'm not sure why some people think a 900MHz is incapable of accomplishing what most people require on a laptop (i.e. primarily browsing internet), you don't need an overclocked i7 to load up a web browser(not that RMS even does that). Hell, even Photoshop would work.

Also want to say: CPU Frequency is way less important than a lot of people seem to think.

Unless he has changed (to something less free), it's a Lemote Yeeloong - yeah, not a very common name. It's made of 100% free software, including at the firmware/BIOS level.

He fights for the user! Ⓒ∞

I think most places operated under different rules before our current security-crazed culture took hold. We used to sneak into the computer labs at the university where I lived in the early 90s when I was still in high school. We would login with a student's account and play games all night long. I also broke into a server at another college using a fairly simple exploit and all I got was the admin threatening to kick my ass (little threat, he was two states away).

Hell, I used to run security scans against the backbone provider for the whole state for fun, and occasionally log into their systems just to poke around, and all they ever did was ask how I got in so they could fix it. It's a different world now.

Twitpic was horrible on my phone, here's an imgur link

Twitpic was horrible on my phone, here's an

Do you agree with the disagreement or disagree with the disagreement?

What's wrong with "searching"?

Linux is licensed under the GPL.

Leemote Yeelong, IIRC.

You are right. My bad.

He's not the one getting more extreme, the world is just moving in the opposite direction and it just looks that way.

Richard Stallman's Bacon number is 3

Richard Stallman and David S. Miller appeared in The Code.

David S. Miller and Timothy Daly appeared in Return to Sender.

Timothy Daly and Kevin Bacon appeared in Diner.

Julian Assange's Bacon number is 3

Julian Assange and Samuel West appeared in Wikileaks: Secrets and Lies.

Samuel West and Michael J. Reynolds appeared in World War II Behind Closed Doors: Stalin, the Nazis and the West.

Michael J. Reynolds and Kevin Bacon appeared in Where the Truth Lies.

Google didn't have any bacon number for Snowden, but you can play along at home too by just googling "bacon number" and then someones name.

Im so old I bought all the games I want now.

When my setup is perfect for an game (serial, patch, savegames) I take an backup of the wine prefix and have an plug and play setup to last the next 10-20 years.

Yeah, wine is an oxymoron but I newer though gabe would go full metal with his linux adoption and the speedy development in the api's such as 3d, audio and inputs.

I thought I had to keep using bleeding egde stuff and hackaround in my gaming room and diy.

I guess im very odd in the games I like and the effort I put into just playing them.

I also have an increasing retro gaming rig that also needs love (nes,snes,amiga,c64 etc)

For me its an passion and hobby, and I increased very my skills to be able to keep up with the levels needed at work.

When you work with wine so much, you get an deep understanding of the inner workings of the win32 consepts.

So theres many rational and silly reasons for my odd ways, but im happy with it.

Theres some neat things you can use wine to do.

Want to ripp your music from sporify ?

Want to get the keys in clear text ?

Want to map the api's used in some new copy protections ?

Want to see what windows update sends to ms ?

All done with an long night with wine.

Please x-post to /sub/hurd

OPs link made Ghostery explode.

OPs link made Ghostery .


Wasn't that a story from "Hackers", by Steven Levy? Guy L. Steele pieced together the Chinese words for various foods and ended up ordering sweet-and-sour bitter melon, which resulted in a hideous concoction. (Me, I think that would taste good with lots of salt. It would make your tongue explode.)

because some part of it doesnt fit his fine-toothed comb of 'muh freedoms'.

They're not "his" freedoms, they're everyone's freedoms...and they're actually quite reasonable if you don't want to control and oppress others:

The freedom to run the program, for any purpose.

The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor.

The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others. By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

Easily enough; all he had to do was to ignore the fact that there is no evidence of rape, then he had to hold RMS responsible for what he imagined that JA had done. His comments reveal that he relishes in drawing broad, disparaging judgments of others with little or no cause.