Owen Oysten is a filthy convicted rapist. Let's not let people forget this.

Owen Oysten is a filthy convicted rapist. Let's not let people forget this.

Considering Oysten just sued a poor 63 year old fan £20,000 for claiming this defamation amongst other things, the guys still a nasty piece of work, I feel like we should just put it out there a little bit more.

If Ched Evans isn't socially accepted to play football then how is this waste of space allowed to own a football club.

in a much more open and shut case than Evans too IIRC

How was he able to sue someone for saying it if it's true?

edit: Oh god, so many pretend experts.

Budget Richard Branson.

Words can't describe how much I hate this man. Seeing Blackpool turn up to Derby with only a 100 or so supporters because this prick has utterly ravaged their club depressed me. The sooner he's out of football completely the better.

Nowhere in that does it say he got sued for claiming Owen Oyston was a convicted rapist. He got sued for defamation, and by definition that has to be communication of a false statement.

He's also a convicted rapist and a shit Chairman who is sucking the club dry of money and sabotaging its success.

#SueMe

What about the pitches in urban Siberia

Wait, are you all talking about Blackpool FC, the club owned by convicted rapist Owen Oysten?

Don't mind me, I'm just here reminding people that Blackpool FC owner Owen Oyston is a convicted rapist, and I'm not really adding anything else to the conversation. Please humor me, as this is my form of protest against the rapist, Owen Oyston. Don't feel like you need to interact with me. Granted, I'm NOT a bot -- I'm just happy to cut and paste to warn people to "hide yo wives, hide yo kids" around this guy. And by this guy, I am referring to the fucking rapist owner of Blackpool FC, Owen "No Consent Needed" Oyston.

Isn't he on the board that tests if owners are fit and proper?

Just when you thought the fit & proper test couldn't become any more of a joke eh?

He's also suing an unofficial fan forum for £150,000 for libel

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/17/blackpool-fan-20000-oystons-threaten-court-online...

I have no idea how the legality works, but apparently so.....

Have you seen their training grounds and facilities? I think seen Saturday league pitches in rural Siberia are in a better condition.

On that note, I live by where all this took place with Ched. (Rhyl, North Wales) and I've spoke to people who work there and seen some cctv. He was as drunk as her and she even leaves the room to collect a pizza and then freely walks back there, opposite to her police statement, social media has fucked this mans life.

Absolutely. This is clear case. The Evans incident is still awfully circumstantial.

I find it amusing that in today's culture you have to go on a tangent about being a supporter of victims when you question a case of sexual violence, lest you get slandered as a rape apologist or misogynist.

Rapist and pedophile chasing is the modern day version of witch hunting hysteria.

SueMe

Don't worry, I'm sure he will.

Have you actually read the case notes? That whole thing about how one was convicted and the other wasn't is only weird if you don't know how the sequence of events went down.

Macdonald took the girl back to his room, so there's reason to assume some sort of consent, which is why he was found not guilty.

Evans turned up later, lied his way into getting a key for the room, then after the sex sneaked out via a fire escape, with MacDonald telling the concierge on the way out to keep an eye on the girl, as she was so hammered she was ill, then she woke up in a pool of her own urine, allegedly unaware what had happened.

Obviously, nobody other than those there know exactly what happened. But a good rule of thumb is to not trick your way into a hotel room to lick out, then bang, a shitfaced girl you've never met before who your mate just shagged.

Look at him! Looks terrible

He looks like an English idea of a Texan Richard Branson

No, he was sued for saying the Oystons are sinking the club on purpose. If you read his apology, that's what he was made to apologize for.

Either you're trolling or a fucking moron if you believe that is the point of my analogy.

Pretty much. His mate had reasonable belief that she had consented, Evans didn't. That was the difference, legally speaking.

I think much less of you now, don't like elephants at all. Just wait till everyone else hears about it. Your reputation will be in tatters.

We don't talk about urban Siberia.

The Evans case doesn't make sense in that his buddy got off and he didn't. It was only "rape" in the sense they thought he should have known better than to sleep with a drunk woman. Well, she was just as drunk when she fucked his buddy, so I don't understand why the buddy beat the rap and he didn't. I'm a big advocate for rape victims (my sister was violently raped in an alley in college) but this one seems more like drunken sex that the girl later regretted and less like actual rape.

IIRC the argument is that she was hanging around his mate all night and so his reasoning for thinking she legitimately wanted to sleep with him (and that it wasn't the alcohol) is stronger than Evans, who only showed up once his mate and the girl were in the hotel already.

Let's have a bit of a celebration when Owen Oysten dies.

There's currently a Twitter campaign #OystonOut where people are posting with their club colours.

Check out Tangerine Knights (@KnightTangerine): https://twitter.com/KnightTangerine?s=09

Hey, free 20 grand.

Libel is written, slander is spoken

I will do my best but keep in mind I'm no Blackpool fan or even English.

Basically when Blackpool where promoted in 2010 I think they were due to pocket around 30 million in increased tv money, matchday tickets etc. The Oystens spent very little on strengthening the first team and promptly got relegated back to the championship. However, Blackpool gave a pretty good account of themselves and the Oystens sold off a few of their better players for big-ish money, most notably Charlie Adam for 8 million to Liverpool.

So even after their promotion to the Premiership and selling some of their better players none of the money they had earned (probably around 45 million) went back into the club. Then back in the Championship they continued running them as if they were a league 1 club. Signing players on short contracts (usually 1 year deals) and generally only getting in players on frees or ones who were clearly not good enough for that level.

As for the Oystens themselves. The elder one Owen is, as the title suggests, a convicted rapist. While his son Karl Oyston is the one who runs the club. Now lets just say Karl is a chip of the old block. He called a fan a massive retard and he has been through 8 managers in his time in charge usually hiring managers that are horribly inexperienced at that level. But here is the kicker so to speak. The Oyston family have a networth of 100 million pounds and the club is pretty much seeing none of it.

tl;dr In my opinion the family is swindling money out of the club. While the fans watch the club crumble into the abyss.

Already on it. Sorting all Blackpool references, and commenting in the thread with this:

Do you mean Blackpool FC, the club owned by convicted rapist Owen Oysten?

EDIT: It now appears as this:

Wait, are you all talking about Blackpool FC, the club owned by convicted rapist Owen Oysten?

Don't mind me, I'm just here reminding people that Blackpool FC owner Owen Oyston is a convicted rapist, and I'm not really adding anything else to the conversation. Please humor me, as this is my form of protest against the rapist, Owen Oyston. Don't feel like you need to interact with me. Granted, I'm NOT a bot -- I'm just happy to cut and paste to warn people to "hide yo wives, hide yo kids" around this guy. And by this guy, I am referring to the fucking rapist owner of Blackpool FC, Owen "No Consent Needed" Oyston.

Wasn't the point that his sentence wasn't over? He was sentenced to five years and has been released for good behaviour. He still serves the rest as a suspended sentence until 2017.

That's aside from the fact that in such a public industry you probably don't want someone who has that sentence representing you.

EDIT: Not claiming any special expertise in this area but this is my understanding of his sentence.

Yes because the Judge relied on social media to convict him....

Well, every Blackpool reference I see will have the following posted response:

Do you mean Blackpool FC, the club owned by convicted rapist Owen Oysten?

This has to be one of the biggest bell ends in football at this current time. How isn't it made bigger about him being a convicted rapist if Evans was everywhere.

less actual rape

The cut and dry of the Evans case is there was no consent. Don't compare his and McDonald's separate cases and look at just that.

Drunken sex can be rape. She went 'home' with one, the other turned up without her knowing and joined in.

It was only "rape" in the sense they thought he should have known better than to sleep with a drunk woman.

Lol what?

I've never seen anyone look like that in Texas. He looks more like an evil character from the three musketeers or something.

That hat is not a cowboy hat and that pencil mustache and goatee would not fly anywhere in Texas I've been.

So fuck the media for attacking Ched Evans and the people who blindly believe them, while I go off blindly believing some dude's comment on the internet.

He didn't get sued for saying that, he got sued for defamation and that does have to be false.

if you look at his apology, he goes into a lot of detail about how he -

"accept the Oyston family's main objective is, and always has been, for the financial stability and success for, and of, BFC.""

So you can pretty much work out that he said the opposite and got sued for that.

Colonel Saunders on meth

It has to be a bit more than that as well. If it was an honestly held opinion then he could defend himself even if it was false. You basically have to say something which you know to be false, or which any reasonable person should know to be false.

Great analysis Clive.

I think he's going for this guy

Great shout. Looks like a Texan Richard Branson

Wait, was the guy sued for saying that a convicted rapist raped someone? That's ridiculous.

No, because a) I haven't been defamed or suffered any noticeable loss of reputation, and b) you're obviously being disingenuous. If I sued you for that I would fail.

I already countered this claim, and this is an overly simplistic statement. I don't like to brag but I do have a degree in this.

He's also a cunt!

Bolded so he reads it.

Oh don't mistake me for questioning whether your genuine or not, that's not what I meant at all. I apologise.

How was the figure of £20,000 decided? Seems fucking extortionate.

Cellino failed the fit and proper test. And the Malkay MacKay saga taught us that while Tan may be unconventional, he's pretty sane

So, I didn't really know much about this, Blackpool are the team that had like 9 players on the team sheet at the start of the season or something like that right?

Can someone ELI5 the actual situation of Blackpool and who this dude is?

He looks inbred

Loads of clubs would love to have Ched Evans representing them if they could avoid the massive shit storm that comes with him.

I understand what you are saying but in my case I am genuinely an advocate for rape victims because I saw first hand the devastation it did to my sister. My sister's rape was not the date-rape variety (not that that is much better) but rather forcible and violent rape by a serial rapist after she had left her boyfriend's dorm.

Magical black mage? Oi.

It is Ken Barlow

This bloke is gonna find himself up against someone with nothing to lose anymore and end up shot on the street.

And I genuinely hope it happens.

Kid Rock?

Mickey Rourke?

Axl Rose?

She was unconscious, it was partially recorded by other team mates too IIRC. Zero consent.

Edit: Worth pointing out too that Evans couldn't prove his innocence, not just at the trial, but with 3 separate appeals and a bunch of expensive lawyers. Even his teammate contradicted his story.

/u/Joethesaint is a pink homosexual elephant. But would you sue me for 20 grand?

He can also defend himself by showing that, while it turned out to be false, he had reason to believe it was true at the time; or he can show that he was joking, and that the reasonable person would have realised it was a joke, which would be pretty difficult.

Things like this make me angry; unless a case is very clear and we have enough info to make an informed decision, people should keep their mouths shut.

I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the horde of holier-than-thou cunts which emerge every time Evans is brought up.

Ahh the relentless apologists for a convicted rapist because he can kick a football.

Urban Sibe.... oh, you!!!!

Facebook isn't private. I got the impression it was on a public message board anyway.

Not only that but he has shown no remorse whatsoever for his actions.

Even if you are one of those that don't believe what he did was rape, he has shown no remorse for what he and his supporters have done to the girl involved. And I would suggest reading the summary of the refusal of his right to appeal before defending him.

after his sentence is over

"on parole" does not mean "sentence is over".

Of course he's a racist the guy models himself on plantation owners of  the deep south!

Of course he's a racist the guy models himself on owners of the deep south!