Man awarded $870,000 after doctor removes wrong testicle

Man awarded $870,000 after doctor removes wrong testicle

Probably not that much considering that he will probably lose the other testicle also.

Jokes aside, I wouldn't be very happy if I lost my testicles, with or without $870,000.

Glad this doctor is no longer performing surgeries. What a quack.

A doctor in my country (Ireland) removed the wrong kidney from a kid one time. The parents noticed on the pre-surgery notes that the wrong kidney was written down, and mentioned it to the staff, who were like 'uuuhhh it's fine' and proceeded to remove the wrong kidney.

That's actually quite serious, considering the man will have to decide between living in pain (i.e living with the problematic testicle) or having to undergo hormone replacement therapy.

A jury of eleven women ruled in favor of Steven Hanes, 54, in a lawsuit he filed against his former urologist Dr. V. Spencer Long.

I feel like a jury of all men would've been better, but that works too.

It said he'd have to have testosterone replacement therapy continually in that case. Doesn't sound fun.

No, kid had to go on dialysis they eventually got him a new one. Healthy one went in the bin. Doctor and staff still working in same hospital

Especially considering he won't be having any kids.

I would happily give up both my balls for that much money. They replace them with implants so you feel normal and I'm done having kids. Money please.

Is that the price of one ball... $870,000. Hmmm

And sterility

Except in this case, the parents noticed the issue and pointed it out. The NEGLECTFUL staff just shrugged their shoulders and went about their day. That isn't an accident at that point

Maybe the defense argued that men would not be able to convey a fair verdict as they would be personally invested in the case since it involved male genitalia.

If anything, the jury being all women makes the verdict even more damning.

At 54, it is unlikely that he is planning on having kids, and has likely already reproduced.

Fortunately, you don't need testicles to be sexually active or desire/enjoy sexual contact, as is often suggested.

I wouldn't be very happy if I lost my testicles, with or without $870,000.

First thing that came to mind. My balls are worth a lot more to me than that.

Once you have enough money to live reasonably money doesn't bring happiness. But your balls are priceless.

I am doing the lawsuit myself. I talked with multiple lawyers about my case, one lawyer in particular. I couldn't get myself to sign the contract.

Ok, I'm sorry, but to be frank, you're a fucking idiot. You do not do a med mal lawsuit yourself. I'm a lawyer, and I wouldn't even do a med mal lawsuit myself - I'd hire an actual med mal lawyer to do it.

Also, choosing to go without a lawyer sends huge signals to the judge/other side/etc. that one or both of these are true: (1) you are literally insane, (2) your case is so bad that every lawyer refused to take it. And the other side will offer you MUCH worse deals and settlement offers since they know you have no idea what the norm is. They could also really fuck you over in the details of any settlement agreement.

If it's not too late, go hire a real medical malpractice lawyer right now.

Did they realize their mistake in time to put it back?

The doctor, now 77, is no longer performing surgeries...

This happened in June of 2013, so at the time, the surgeon would have been 73 years old. Commercial pilots have mandatory retirement at age 65. Should there be a similar requirement for physicians?

It's easy to assume anyone who makes that mistake should be fired. But the truth is accidents like this are never any one persons mistake and usually the result of institutional laxity.

The end result here was totally disastrous but the reality is the mistake itself is one anyone could make on the wrong day. Should everyone lose their jobs because someone accidentally typed left instead of right?

When assessing blame in medicine we don't necessarily look at the outcome, we look at the behaviour of those involved. If the behaviour is dangerous then the person is harshly punished even if the outcome isn't severe but conversely if a small mistake has horrifying consequences we don't then say the mistake was due to global incompetence.

It's the nature of medicine that small mistakes can have severe outcomes but till they start manufacturing flawless humans you can't fire anyone who screws up once.

I believe this happened before the institution of surgical checklist culture, which has revolutionised surgery and dropped accidents like this one to a fraction of what they once were. All thanks to Atul Gawande- one of my absolute heros. If you want to read a book that has literally saved a million lives, read the Checklist Manifesto.

It's amazing how much difference one man can make.

All managed by hormones, dude. Long as you have hrt, you might be firing blanks, but your brain won't tell the difference.

In all seriousness, if you're a healthy male, you can get $20k to $30k for a testicle.

Heads: Lamborghini, tails: testicle

you'll always be mocked for having small loads, especially when you participate in bukkake parties.

Fortunately, you don't need testicles to be sexually active or desire/enjoy sexual contact, as is often suggested.

You don't?

No, seriously I kinda want to know.

Assuming a modest 3% withdrawal rate, $870,000 nets you $26,100 a year for life, assuming no growth/loss. You could live without working on that, albeit not in a grand manner. If you work any job on top of that, you'll never have to worry about money ever again.

Who do I have to contact to make this happen? No bamboozle.

So no different from where I am now, only I'd have that extra money. Sounds like a win to me.

You might not understand the consequences of that surgery. The other ball doesn't always pick up the slack in terms of testosterone production, and lifelong TRT is not only expensive, but inexact in recapturing the former hormonal balance. (It's important for testosterone to aromatize into estradiol also, for someone who doesn't just want to get ripped, because estradiol is extremely important for neurological health among other things.)

30k is 30k, though.

That sounds unconstitutional, eliminating potential jurors on the basis of sex. IANAL, though.

You'd spend it trying to get your manhood back as you slid down a well of depression.

Exactly. I had a surgeon bypass informed consent and perform a bunch of unnecessary surgeries on me. 

He messed me up bad.

The shocking thing about my case, when you compare it to one like this, is that removing th wrong testicle is likely incompetence,

The surgeon that cut out my breathing organs (turbinates) when I was sedated knew I didn't want or need that surgery, so he bypassed informed consent intentionally.

Could have been maliciousness, or surgeon arrogance, or something else, but he intentionally decieved me.

Then he wrote this letter on why he didn't have informed consent: http://imgur.com/NRUyIbP

He claims to have shredded it even though I was a current patient.  

Edit: YouTube video showing how he cut the tip of my face out 

https://youtu.be/5pwZHI1Vmws 

Edit2: Additional documentation

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6f9zXq_hjFkeFBUOERNM1pLUFE

Surgeon added flu symptoms on day of surgery to the surgical report.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6f9zXq_hjFkbGRjNjIzY2lPUzg

Core temperature was 94 degrees for the entirety of the monitored procedure. 'Patient shivering' 

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6f9zXq_hjFkNzRDazQ5UE1ISjA

Also, I was partially conscious during the procedure. Heartbeat is a key indicator of consciousness during surgery, as such, I assume at 1140 according to the core temperature documents I was conscious. It shows my heart beating out of my chest at 117-BPM.

I was laying on the table shaking having my breathing organs cut out of my face against my will, and even though I was anesthetized, I could feel them cutting my face, and my heart beating out of my chest, but I couldn't move or stop them. No one verified the informed consent, not the co-surgeon, not the anasthesiologist, and not the surgical staff. They all participated in surgical battery.

Exactly. I had a surgeon bypass informed consent and perform a bunch of unnecessary surgeries on me.

He messed me up bad.

The shocking thing about my case, when you compare it to one like this, is that removing th wrong testicle is likely incompetence,

The surgeon that cut out my breathing organs (turbinates) when I was sedated knew I didn't want or need that surgery, so he bypassed informed consent intentionally.

Could have been maliciousness, or surgeon arrogance, or something else, but he intentionally decieved me.

Then he wrote this letter on why he didn't have informed consent:

He claims to have shredded it even though I was a current patient.

Edit: YouTube video showing how he cut the tip of my face out

https://youtu.be/5pwZHI1Vmws

Edit2: Additional documentation

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6f9zXq_hjFkeFBUOERNM1pLUFE

Surgeon added flu symptoms on day of surgery to the surgical report.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6f9zXq_hjFkbGRjNjIzY2lPUzg

Core temperature was 94 degrees for the entirety of the monitored procedure. 'Patient shivering'

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6f9zXq_hjFkNzRDazQ5UE1ISjA

Also, I was partially conscious during the procedure. Heartbeat is a key indicator of consciousness during surgery, as such, I assume at 1140 according to the core temperature documents I was conscious. It shows my heart beating out of my chest at 117-BPM.

I was laying on the table shaking having my breathing organs cut out of my face against my will, and even though I was anesthetized, I could feel them cutting my face, and my heart beating out of my chest, but I couldn't move or stop them. No one verified the informed consent, not the co-surgeon, not the anasthesiologist, and not the surgical staff. They all participated in surgical battery.

Same here, while money is a powerful influence, at the end of the day you can't buy dignity and you certainly can't buy your balls back

Just walk into a hospital and windmill slam some bloody testicle onto the receptionist desk.

You can take testosterone then you will still get hard and can still orgasm. Your jizz will be less, some of it's made elsewhere like the prostate, and it will be sperm free.

Testicles are not plug-and-play compatible.

you had, literary, one job.....

They'll put fake ones in. You can probably get shapes installed. Maybe one is a skull and the other is a dog.

it means pinning for life. I'd take a mil for that.

Pilots can start piloting in their early 20s. Doctors can't start doctoring until mid-30s in the US. A 65-year-old doctor is "seasoned", not retirement material.

They also produce testosterone, which affects a whole lot more than just reproduction. Plan on spending some of that money on hormone replacement therapy for the rest of your life, and your quality of life will never be the same again.

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This is my favorite part:

“It appeared that the left testicle and cord may actually have been removed instead of the right one,” Long wrote in a post-operative report, which was included in court filings.

On the bright side it sounds like you get access to a lot of raw materials for side projects. That's got to be so convenient; whenever one of my abominations is in need of parts I have to outrun hospital security with a biohazard bin tucked under each arm.

I am trying not to laugh - but failing miserably!

My remote is broken. They're always blue :(

Not really, it's the defense's job to ensure a fair trial, and as such to do as much as they can to anything that would corrupt the process.

Testicular removal is definitely an issue men would feel more strongly about,and may not base their decision solely on the evidence, so it's not really discrimination.

Let me reassure you that if you're depressed about your manhood, selling a ball for a quick $30k (which is nothing btw) is the wrong direction to be moving in.

But now you'd be immune to being kicked in the balls.

Because y'know.

Not worth it, I don't know for you, but my testicles happen to be one of my favorite body parts.

I am not even a lawyer nor do I have any legal experience or knowledge, and I knew the moment he said he wouldn't hire one he fucked up bad.

He will lose. It will be his fault. And it will really hurt because it sounds like he has a really solid case. Wtf is he doing.

Did anything come of it? Seems it's your word against his, and the hospitals, as they "shredded it" months before your surgery. Seems fishy..

I take testosterone it really isn't a hassle.

Not enough money.

Oh no, I'm depressed for various other reasons, not my manhood.

The Powerball takes on a whole new meaning

Gotta prevent those twice or three times in a lifetime moments where someone kicks you in the nads

Roids with no chance of ball shrinkage.

Well.. you can but they won't be the same.

Its currently in the Malpracrice lawsuit process. Specifically a required pre-lawsuit hearing called Medical Inquiry and Concilliation Panel (MICP).

The case is actually quite a bit more complex than he said she said. Malpractice cases are by their nature very complex.

Which is unfortunate in some ways for me, because I am doing the lawsuit myself. I talked with multiple lawyers about my case, one lawyer in particular. I couldn't get myself to sign the contract.

Part of the reason I couldn't sign the contract is because signing a retainer to have a lawyer represent you requires a lot of trust.

The last person I trusted cut out my breathing organs.

This folder has some additional paperwork, presented in a way to make the case clearer to the viewer.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6f9zXq_hjFkeFBUOERNM1pLUFE

Includes: How I was referred exclusively for an alar batten graft. I wanted that cartilage to be harvested from my ear, something he agreed too, despite his 'unsureness' in the medical notes.

He diagnosed the septum and turbinates as healthy, per the results of the initial consultation 'examination'. Then he surgically operated on those organs, as the surgical report shows.

He did an informed consent where he and his assistant signed and witnessed it, without me present. He says this is his 'standard procedure', even though it's fraud, and it basically guarantees no witness. Further the surgical report details procedures not even on the unsigned and unseen informed consent. Including cutting out my septum, and breaking my turbinate conchal bones.

Then, once I was discharged and realized he didn't harvest cartilage from my ear, like we agreed, all the discharge paperwork says is 'turbinate reduction', something I didn't agree too. Further, that limited statement functionally holds the information of what he did to me hostage.

The horror of what he did to me is difficult to imagine, let alone live through. Lots of therapy and lots of tears.

Remarkably, his chosen specialty is pediatric surgery.

he gets 870G, and testosterone supplements? Lucky guy.

Where can one get this 20k to 30k? Does it have to be my own testicle? Asking for a friend.

Not me

Not anymore they're not.

some areas have shortages of particular medical specialties so this wouldn't be smart. also, physicians take a god awful lot of time and money to train so working them until they are too old is basically a way for society to squeeze out as much value out of them as possible.

You always use the patients left and right.

My professors went over this a thousand times and we were just cutting up frogs.

Yeah, but... they're my balls.

This is literally why they have a diagram of a person and circle where the operation is supposed to be. Someone messed up, or made a really big circle (which is actually pretty common).

Source: I clean and sterilize instruments for surgery; and they throw everything into the case cart when they're done. Yes, I have seen toes, placenta, foreskin, hips, shredded flesh and bone, etc.

It's not really about the testosterone, it's about not having your balls anymore.

He should've gotten lifetime coverage of future medical costs related to this fuck up in that judgement. First there's the cost of removing the correct testicle if he ends up needing that, then the testosterone replacement treatments, and what ever other medical issues might result from no testicles. Given the state of American healthcare, $900K might not be enough to cover those costs for the remainder of his life.

Yeah, but consider this: You'll never feel the pain of accidentally sitting on your balls ever again.

Testicles cannabalize really quick. If you get your ball smashed and don't hit a doctor in time your nut is fucking gone man.

Hooking it back up, don't reckon that'll work.

You probably wouldn't have to pay for it. My really shitty insurance covers my testosterone. Even out of pocket depo testosterone is really cheap.

As long as your testosterone levels are good your quality of life will be fine.

I don't know the specifics of this case but when my father in law was dying in the Limerick hospital I noticed a stark contrast to Canada's health care paradigm. Ireland's model still seems very paternalistic much like ours was years ago (and still is, to a certain extent). Like doctors wanting to protect patients by not telling them how imminent their death is, protecting family from bad news, etc.

One of the reasons there was a big push to make our system more patient centered is because of stories like this. Listen to your fucking patients, man! (Or in this case, the parents).

The doctors and nurses and support staff work their butts of in Ireland and provided really top notch care - the approach was just really different than what we are taught about patient centered care.

So why add manhood to the pile?

Gonna assume slang for using steroids?

I don't think that's necessarily true. My dad was an Anesthesiologist and just retired at age 63 after working for 31 years. (He started at age 32.) Most of his similar age peers are retiring soon/have retired recently as well. It's so nice to see him have lower stress levels.

MD here. Many sinonasal surgeries require removing the nasal turbinates in order to have appropriate access to the area being operated on. They aren't necessary and most people do fine without them. They primarily function to humidify air as you breathe.

I don't know the details of your surgery, but it seems like the main issue is that the surgeon didn't adequately explain the specifics to your satisfaction ahead of time. He probably assumed that you didn't want to know every single technical detail, because most people don't. Depending on what he was trying to accomplish it may or may not have been necessary to remove the turbinates. I apologize if you have experienced undue suffering as a result of unnecessary surgery, but based on your description it seems like a frivolous lawsuit which you will likely lose. Your situation is totally different from something grossly incompetent like removing the wrong testicle.

And no one would think twice about a heart rate of 117 bpm. Saying your heart was "beating out of your chest" is absurd.

Can you support your assertion? The testicles are the largest (only?) producer of testosterone in the body. This article states that loss of both testicles can result in a massive loss of libido. Obviously testosterone isn't the only thing in a male body that promotes sexual activity, but it's a large contributor.

You can get testosterone replacement therapy.

Both parties agree on who gets on the jury before the trial begins

He probably needs lifelong testoreone therapy with or without the painful ball.

Not as far as I heard. Was a few years ago.

I agree it would have made more sense for there to be men in the jury. Okay now try to count how many times a panel of men have decided the fate of women.

"Woops. Sucks to be that guy"

What's pinning

Doesn't count if you pay for it

I think he was being sarcastic

I don't want to sound snarky, but the language the guy is using suggests some form of mental illness. That doesn't mean that malpractice didn't happen but it makes me wonder.

Then I find out that the guy is representing himself, refuses to sign a retainer (when it sounds like his original issue resulted from refusing to sign things) and the manner of presenting this just gives me mental illness vibes.

Which doesn't mean he wasn't injured. It means he needs to work through a patient advocate to ensure he doesn't either lose a malpractice case, or get taken advantage of by a lawyer who will represent a man with mental illness suing due to paranoia.

Edit: in my experience there is a certain type of person who describes in detail an ongoing malpractice lawsuit on the Internet and that type of person generally has issues that aren't malpractice.

This guy fucks

That's not fair, women have tons of eggs and I only have 3 testicles.

Many procedures are listed as "proceed as indicated". This indicates that the surgeon can use their judgement to do the appropriate treatment based on intraoperative findings. It's possible that prior evaluation in clinic or imaging didn't show turbinate hypertrophy or septal deviation/spurs, but when he evaluated them thoroughly while you were under anesthesia there may have been more hypertrophy or deviation than it previously appeared. Turbinate reduction is one of the most benign procedures an otolaryngologist can do and it's unlikely to have significant morbidities following this. The flexibility of your nose is because the anterior nose is made of cartilage. This would not be affected by septoplasty or turbinate reduction.

That's my purse!

"A lawyer who represents himself, has a fool for a client"

Dude, you're certifiably retarded if you think you can win a medical malpractice suit without a lawyer.

A jury of all men would have awarded INFINITE MONEY.

You don't fuck with the ballsack.

wait, so you mean to tell me that this guy basically cut off your nose without consent?? I know you got burned the last time you trusted someone, and that person was cutting into your face. If it were me, I would bite the bullet and trust that a lawyer could better handle your case. If you lose, it's lost money, but at least its not a botched surgery. Any chance any of the lawyers would take your case on contingency?

http://www.snopes.com/college/medical/testicle.asp

Nope, you cannot. The egg donation is real but you cannot sell any part of your body for cash legally.

Babbies: the worst STD.

I'm not sure I'd call my parents "rich" per say (I would associate that with millionaire sports stars and CEOs), but they're definitely upper middle class. No debt, excellent credit, fully paid off middle class house and 2 cars, can afford to travel a lot (their plan for the beginning of retirement) and eat at nice-ish restaurants and drink nice alcohol when they want to. Anesthesiologists make a decent amount, but uaually about 25% goes to pay for malpractice inaurance and 30%+ is taxes depending on the tax bracket. Plus student loans for quite a while. So a nice 6 figure salary can quickly get cut in half for take home.

We weren't always well off though. When I was a little kid, my dad was paying off med school loans and we lived pretty frugally, almost paycheck to paycheck. They pretty much followed the Dave Ramsey cash only plan before it was a thing and they still don't buy or care about name brand/fancy designer labels or stuff like that and they always saved a ton. Had the economy not tanked in 2008, he would have retired around then.

Am I too naive? Can't they do a medical procedure and 'plug' it back in so to say?

That's all fine and dandy.... if it weren't just because a doctor fucked up. see, he never would've needed it to begin with.

You can make 30k working at Costco for a year. 30k is barely above the poverty line anymore. 30k is nothing, and you'll spend 10 times that much trying to recapture the quality of life that you squandered away.