"I was up all night WORKING ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ˜ค on changing the FUTURE while you were painting pictures ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚โœ‹๐Ÿพ"

"I was up all night WORKING ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ˜ค on changing the FUTURE while you were painting pictures ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚โœ‹๐Ÿพ"

Music Major: Do Re Mi..

Stem Major: Me?!๐Ÿ˜œI don't get Me timeโœ‹Too busy studying๐Ÿ”ฌ๐Ÿ“šC's get Degrees๐Ÿ”‘๐Ÿ˜คTaking 37 hours this semester๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ’ฆ

Art Major: Today we studied the works of Vincent Van Gogh-

STEM Major: "Go"? Go where? ๐Ÿค”. I STAY! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜† I STAY studying๐Ÿ”ฌ๐Ÿ“š ๐Ÿ˜‚ I STAY GRINDING ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ค I STAY indoors ๐Ÿ˜ฉ. I don't have TIME โฐ to finger paint ๐ŸŽจ

As a STEM major. The shit is hard as fuck.

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ITT: STEM majors missing the point. It isn't saying STEM is easy or even that art degrees are harder; it's saying that art majors can't even complain about their class without you immediately comparing it to yours.

It's like saying "you can't complain about being hungry because kids in Bangladesh are starving."

If you spend a lot of time shitting on other people's majors you've got some personal things you gotta work through. Roasting people is one thing but some people legit get heated over it.

On the other hand, arts majors that get all defensive and are always trying to be like "Arts majors are just as valid as any other program" might be more pathetic.

If you're happy and secure with your major you shouldn't even be worrying about what other people are doing, there's so many extra people at my school ๐Ÿ™„

Art Major: Today we studied some paintings by Claude Monet-

You: "Monay"?๐Ÿ‘€ Oh yes, I will be making a lot of monay ๐Ÿ’ฐ ๐Ÿ’ฐafter I graduate ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿผโ€๐ŸŽ“ with my STEM degree ๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ˜‚. You'll be studying MONAY instead of making it ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. I'll have a SEVEN figure salary straight out of college with no experience ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. After graduation you'll either be EATING your paintings to survive ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ or serving me a latte โ˜•๏ธ at Starbucks. Gtg, got some STUDYING and GRINDING to do ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

For real, this computer science ain't shit to play around with. Why mathematics gotta be discrete?

My advisor told me to take seven engineering classes in one semester once. He said as long as I worked hard, it would be fine, but I swear a bit of me died during final exam week. I had to take seven finals. Everyday waking up at 8am, grabbing a quick coffee and breakfast, then going to the library for 12+ hours a day, coming back at 10-11pm, then going to bed. Practice problem on problem on problem, concepts on concepts on concepts. I couldn't even celebrate my birthday because it coincided during exam week. In fact, I've never been able to celebrate my birthday in college because of exam week. I remember buying a burrito on my birthday and eating it in my car alone, crying about how much I fucking hated engineering. Not gonna lie, ever since then, when my friends mention how hard they're "grinding," I get slightly triggered. There's no sympathy left in my heart for them.

You

we post these memes like reddit isn't a hub of engineer worship

Is this going to be me? Next year I'll be a college freshman studying Electrical Engineering๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

I'm finna go to parties and make memories๐Ÿ™ƒ

Should we tell him?...

The two worst people: "You have no idea how hard being a STEM major is, I don't even want to hear you complain" and "My humanities major is just as hard as your chemistry major"

Who the fuck in their right mind would tell someone to take seven fucking engineering classes in one quarter? That person should be fucking fired on the spot. That shit won't help the student because they'll be so overloaded with information nothing will stick and they'll just end up getting damaged. Holy fuck.

Entire comment section is STEM majors trying to justify how hard they think their degrees are, lol.

I majored in Math and CS, just fyi.

Shit really? I thought discrete was hard, I got through cal without going to a single class

Is your art degree in emojis?

Student athlete to Stem major meme? Wonder if I should invest in it at /sub/memeeconomy

I'm doing something I don't really enjoy with the hope that it will get me a high-paying job that I will hate and it really pisses me off that you're not as fucking miserable as I am

I'll tell him, /u/PancakeMafia you gonna be good.

Don't trust these guys, if you're smart enough you can combine party life with periods of fucked up cramming materials in your head. If you're not you can either stay in and study all year (right...) or choose a field that suits you better and is possible to combine with the good life.

I hope so. I'm a STEM major and the people I go to class with need to have their egos knocked down a few rungs

TBH I think that most majors are difficult in their own ways. I can't handle the massive amount of readings required for a lot of art majors for example.

discrete math is easy, Calc 1 and 2 is what fucks you over

I gotta research a topic, develop a thesis, formulate an argument that expands my thesis using examples from my research, write it with the appropriate balance of focus and detail, conclude my argument in such a way that wraps it up without restating what I said, edit the paper, possibly rewrite sections

I have an engineering friend who literally spends all day doing homework and another friend in communications who never does any work. They argue like this all the time, although I gotta admit the people that never do work and complain about it are worse.

As a art(graphic design) major who's helped STEM major friends i envy you guys.

Nothing sucks more than a truly subjective major. Being graded down because of letter spacing, slightly different shade than what the teach thinks it should be is maddening.

http://imgur.com/a/QsWQd

Maybe they just understand their content better than you understand yours.


you'll either be EATING your paintings to survive


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bxm6vRyCYAA5_Pf.png

you'll either be EATING your paintings to survive

Worst part about engineering class is that every student thinks they're the smartest person there

Ok cool but then a med student comes and blasts the same shit back in your face. Like, where does it end? The point is its just stupid dick measuring to make people feel superior.

Also, maybe it IS hard for them. Maybe they're not as smart as you. There's nothing shameful in that and people shouldn't be shat on for it.

I know you said you don't say it out loud and that's key but it's all about perspective.

Saying programming is hard because of syntax errors is like saying writing a novel is hard because you have to remember how to spell words.

Just cuz your roommate is lazy doesn't mean the content is easier

yessss i been waiting for the STEM major memes.

Really? I have the direct opposite experience. We all know we're fucking stupid and our professors make sure to remind us every so often.

This especially true with the veterans in engineering group I study with. We have a saying "We're not intelligent, we're just stubborn" We figure if we all ride each others coattails somebody has gotta get somewhere

As a community college dropout who works in a warehouse, I don't really connect with anyone in this thread.

I agree, I'd been doing calc for a long time, and it wasn't that much harder after highschool. Discrete math was completely new to me, and I found much harder.

Yeah neither side wants to actually listen.

Bet. I've got friends in STEM courses and when I see their course schedule and hear about all their assignments, I just think "How Sway!?"

Y'all definitely have much more time-consuming schedules than I do. But you don't have to take it out on arts students just cuz your program is making you miserable ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

Sleep more than you study, study more than you party, and party as often as you can.

When it's been 5 minutes and a STEM major hasn't told anyone about how hard it is to be a STEM major. http://i.imgur.com/n08A8NO.jpg

When it's been 5 minutes and a STEM major hasn't told anyone about how hard it is to be a STEM major.

First week: I'll take Meteorology cause it'd be cool to learn about weather, I'm sure it's not so bad

Sixth week: Apparently there's a million fucking things floating in the air and I gotta know everything about each of those before I know it's gonna rain or not.

Even though engineering is hard, I do enjoy learning about the concepts. It's crazy how smart some of these guys were to notice shit in nature I wouldn't notice in two lifetimes. I also like making shit so there's that.

I'm graduating in the spring with a degree in EE. Yes, If you want to do well you will have to study a lot

EDIT: I should add, but expect to do a lot of self-studying. In my experience, tenured professors don't teach well enough to do well in their own classes (which is a bunch of bullshit if you ask me). Don't be like me and fight against it by not doing self-studying. Just accept that you will probably have more shitty professors than good ones and you'll have to do most of the work on your own. The sooner you accept that, the better off you'll be.

It's fine until they tell me how bad they have it. It's like if you lose a parent or sibling and someone cries to you about their second cousin's friend's dog died.

I chose STEM cuz it was easier for me than a liberal arts degree. Physical Chemistry or Matrix Algebra? That was easy for me. Just do as many problems over and over again until you can solve anything thrown at you in your sleep. Doing experiments? Just plan that shit right and then the rest of it is just executing simple steps. You set your stuff up right and your results will fall into place. Writeup is easy, because 99% of the time you're just reproducing results that you can easily look up on the internet.

I had a good friend who was doing History at the same time, and I couldn't even imagine myself doing that. I'm not reading a thousand pages a week and then spending hours upon hours trying to synthesize and defend a thesis that requires me to remember the other ten books I read that semester.

STEM might be hard work, but it's simple hard work. For the first few years, it's just the intellectual equivalent of ditch digging.

You need to put in a crap load of time. It isn't high school where you just set a few hours here and there. Just saying it is poor time management that makes the major difficult is wrong.

There's a weird evolution going underway in engineering schools. A lot of it is "it's how it's always been" and precedence, but there's a lot of expectation to max yourself out in studies and leave no time to balance out personal life.

Take a look at some 4-year plans at some universities. They look sort of reasonable, but what you're expected to invest and commit to in each course per quarter or semester is somewhat an unhealthy amount. I think for something as broad as engineering where you're asked to know a lot about many things, four years of nose to the grindstone sometimes feels like I'm taking years off my life expectancy.

For the dedicated in engineering, there's a love for the subject and a creativity to come up with solutions from preexisting tools. Getting slammed by coursework and inadequacy and not having enough time to yourself can really kill that spirit by the time you leave the program.

Wow. That's depressing. Props to you for grinding.

School, party, sleep. You can only choose 2.

where my business majors at

Stem major here, the class I had that was the most exhausting was an animation class, because it was hand drawn.

So yeah I don't give art majors shit for their choice of major (also because I like art).

Maybe you're just not very smart

Yeah the Calcs were the easiest.

I think Discrete is a class that solely depends on your professor. They can either make the subjects simple enough to grasp with thorough studying or make the subjects completely crazy.

Bruh don't act like your major and minor are all that difficult. It's just a lot of busy work and memorization. It doesn't require any creativity and isn't subjective in any way. It's like comparing apples to oranges with an art major.

This is coming from someone with a similar field of study as you.

Fuck I do this in my head sometimes. I'm just bitter I can't help it

You aren't who I'm talking about then - you enjoy the material you are learning. Credit to you.

People who trumpet how hard their major is are trying to get fulfillment out of projecting success because the material itself isn't doing it for them. At least that's how it was for me; I didn't brag but I did choose a major I hated for the wrong reasons.

People love to ask 'soft' majors what the point is, what are you going to do with that, etc. but if you're a STEM major nobody bothers to ask if you really give a shit about the material and think that pursuing it as a career would be fulfilling in the long term. Even if they did I wouldn't have had an answer at 20, and I still don't have an answer now.

Depends on the program you use to write your program. Eclipse is pretty decent at telling you where you fucked up.

School, party, sleep. You can only choose 2.

Or the people who never do work and brag. I (STEM) fucked up and left my hardest classes for my last semester, while my business major roommate is coasting on his last 9 hours. I'm stressed as hell just trying to graduate and he's made it a point to tell me how little work he has this semester at least once a week.

r/wholesomeblackpeopletwitter

I think it's more like "You can't complain about being hungry because I'M starving." But either way your right STEMS don't get to monopolize college suffering.

history paper actually sounds harder seesssh

Because maybe the course material is really interesting and exciting, but you have to put in a lot of work to do well?

Fuck Big-Oh

School and sleep. I can party when I'm getting this 4.0 and pulling niggas left and right FYM

I wish man. Everyone speaks up and tries to finish the teachers sentences and they ask questions from later sections constantly just to show how advanced they are. And they always brag constantly and waste do much class time

Hits hard for a STEM major.

I'm not 100%, but I feel a lot of these people who took STEM majors just had poor time management and study skills, which is why they felt it so hard. My friends take STEM courses and a few are in medical school. They all think it's fine as long as you have decent time management and know how to be a responsible student.

Lmao those are just syntax errors, that's easy shit. And if you use a half decent debugger, it'll tell you where the errors are. If you want real fun, try coding in assembly language, or designing pipelined datapaths, or turning boolean equations into logic circuits.

Edit: quadratic formula, for fun

include <cmath> include <iostream>

int quad(int,int,int);

int main() {

int a, b, c; std::cin >> a >> b >> c; std::cout << quad(a,b,c); return 0;

}

int quad(int a, int b,int c){

int resultPos, resultNeg; resultPos = ((b*-1)+(sqrt(b*b-4*a*c)))/2*a; resultNeg = ((b*-1)-(sqrt(b*b-4*a*c)))/2*a;

if(something)

return resultPos;

return resultNeg;

}

Done on mobile so probably loaded with errors

I'm studying psychology and I like college for the most part. I fucked two guys this semester and I'm working on getting a 4.0 even though I'm having trouble with 3 classes ๐Ÿ™ƒ

Graphic design isn't "truly subjective" though. Plenty of objective standards of design can be tested on etc

Just wait for algorithm analysis. Its kicking my ass this semester

Haha man once you graduate I swear it's gonna feel like you made it out of some life threatening maze, I promise you.

Air never smelled and felt so good once you finally get to stop worrying about the extensive topics of math lol.

Science, technology, engineering, and math.

I like to call my friend who got a bs in comp sci to make videogames an art major, because videogames are a form of media which he creates. Pisses him off to no end.

What most of the stem REEEs dont get is everybody thinks differently

i can make you a 3D model of pretty much whatever you think of in less than an hour, but I couldn't write a poem to literally save my life. I can't make beautiful desserts, I can't compose music, I don't speak many languages, I can't write awesome stories, I'm bad at empathy..

but nah let my ability to do math dictate my worth in the universe.

Erybody thinks they're the special snow flake getting the worst treatment.

calc 2 oh no buy lube first plz

I think arts feel like they have to defend themselves because they constantly get shit from other people...

I Can't lie. This is me, currently 3 years onto a CS degree.

anyone here pre-med?

Seriously. I'm cell bio major with a chem minor and I know I put in 10x more work than my English major roommate. Not to say that's a useless major, just easier content.

YESSS, please make fun of us STEM majors.

Electrical engineers might be the most annoying.

Switch to IntelliJ instead.

Nah man, it's all about that big theta.

Fuck towers of Hanoi btw, took me for fucking ever to understand that algorithm.

As another STEM major, it really isn't.

Wait a minor's workload isn't comparable to a major's? Holy shit

And not all art students are le painters, some are actually computer artists... We make bank ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฒ๐Ÿ’ต๐Ÿค‘

Dude I took Oceanography cause I was like "hey, I love surfing and the ocean, surely this class will be extremely interesting" and clearly forgot this was a science course and was learning about all the different water layers or whatever. I can't remember half of it but those courses are never what you expect

That's exactly the same steps for any scientific paper, plus the experiments and data collection. I get where you're coming from, and obviously that isn't easy in any sense of writing a paper but when people say "oh I have it so hard blah blah blah" my only response is, ya. We all do. This isn't a cake walk for anyone.

You'll be a freshman so you technically won't be engineering.

Your real shit comes during sophomore year.

Most people that drop out of "engineering" during freshman year aren't going to make it in science in general.

Sophomore year is when you start taking shit other than Physics, Calc, Chem, and Calculus

Well reddit was originally a programmer forum with general chat, more or less.

This isn't a cake walk for anyone.

Exactly. But the hubris of stem majors far outstrips that of art or literature majors, and has a disproportionate effect on educational and political policies.

With all due respect, you don't just magically develop /sub/adhd

you sound like an impatient dumbass

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What were you expecting you teacher to teach?

"Gnarly dudes and dudettes you see that massive wave in this video? you know what that means? time to catch some waves!!"

"if one wave collides into another wave what do you get? A radical tubuler wave bros!!"

Arts people do get a little too passionate about it sometimes. But it's its own kind of difficult. There weren't too many STEM people sitting arts classes that made it through the entire course when I was at uni.

Maybe he took his hard classes early and wasn't stupid about putting them off so that he would be able to enjoy his last semester.

Stem Major: I have such an insane course load, can't have a social life.

Also Stem Major: Gotta grind out of silver, fucking noobs, one more game of league then class.

I read this in that guy's voice from Kanye's college dropout.

My dad died and all he left me were his degrees

Gonna take a guess and say that he didn't do well though

Seven classes?? I'm taking 3 engineering classes and that's 13 credit hours. Taking anything above 16-17 in engineering classes is asking to get fucked up. Props to you though.

I have definitely seen people getting graded on aesthetics before. An older guy at my previous school used to be a comic artist/old school animator and it showed in his work(A lot of it looked like 60s-80s era stuff, which is a style I love to emulate as well sometimes)

He was struggling to get Cs and Bs despite having work better than 99% of us in the program. Which I never understood as the exact same teachers gave me As and Bs for being experimental and I knew I sucked at the time.

Calc 1 and 2?

Real Analysis makes those courses look like Trig. Fucking epsilon/delta proofs and convergence proofs. Remember the Intermediate/Extreme Value Theorem(s), plus all the other theorems that you had to memorize? Well now we're gonna prove why those work. I don't know how much sleep I lost staying up working on those proofs.

Though, I have heard that some places teach calc 1 and 2 with the proofs from real analysis right off the bat, so I might just be assuming you're referencing doing straight forward derivatives and integration.

Some people livin that easy college dream life while I'm out here bustin my balls on a prereq

Look man, at the risk of disrupting the STEM circlejerk going on in here I'm going to let you in on a secret about Arts majors. Maybe this will take some of the venom out of your soul.

They absolutely do not require the same amount of work to get passing or even great grades. HOWEVER. They do absolutely require the same amount of work to be successful in their field. The guys illustrating comics for Marvel and DC, they spent 10 to 12 hours a day producing artwork the same way a biology major would spend 10 hours a day trying to learn and memorize shit like the Krebs cycle. The guys writing scripts for the Star Wars films right now spent 8 to 10 hours a day writing stories (most of it garbage tbh) the same way computer science majors spend 8 to 10 hours a day writing code.

So maybe your roommate is going to get an easy A in his arts classes, but he will need to put in the same work everybody else does to be successful post college. There's also this thing people in the arts have to do in college called networking and most of these idiots aren't doing it until they graduate. That's why they end up as waiters in L.A. trying to pitch scripts to producers while handing them their lunch.

The grade might be easy but it leaves you wholly unprepared for a career unless you actually put in work.

Mo' Monet, Mo' Problems.

Yep. If you can back up your design decisions with rational arguments, or even better, user testing, then what does your teacher have to bring in on that? As long as the design solves the problem you're tackling, you should be good. Sounds like his teacher is grading him on aesthetics, which is a whole different discussion.