Al Franken resigns from Senate over sexual misconduct allegations | US news

Al Franken resigns from Senate over sexual misconduct allegations | US news

As much as the Democrats are going to hurt over this one (Love him or hate him, Franken is a big character in Washington) the Democrats would have never maintained their legitimacy in criticizing the Republican sexual assaults if they gave Al Franken a pass.

He's a loss for their party but he granted them some legitimacy in this discussion.

It has to be done, but the Democrats are Ned Stark-ing themselves.

Edit: thank you, kind Lannister

video of his resignation speech

He's saying he's resigning, not because he's guilty, but because he can't be an effective senator for the people of Minnesota while also dealing with the ethics investigation.

livestream link

E: new livestream link

Quote from his speech on the Senate Floor:

"I of all people am aware that there is some irony in the fact I am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office and a man who repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the Senate with the full support of his party. But this decision is not about me. It’s about the people of Minnesota," Franken said.

I seriously think this is the biggest reason that they pushed for the resignation so quickly, as opposed to waiting for the investigation.

It doesn't matter anymore. By resigning he is now guilty. The only thing that will save him is some miraculous revelation that all his accusers were hired by project veritas, and the media does an about face and issues apologies which they will never do.

Nope, the new innocent is to categorically deny, call the acussers liars, and ride out the storm.

All the Dem senators said he should resign within hours of each other. It's blatantly obvious what's happening here. Franken is the sacrificial lamb, and with him and Conyers gone now, they will be free to take the moral high ground on Roy Moore. They can now bash Trump and the GOP over the head with Moore 24/7.

It doesn't matter that Franken's behavior wasn't "as bad". Sexual harrassment is still sexualk harassment. Cleaning the trash in our own backyard lets us point the finger at Moore and Trump without hypocrisy. I agree completely with OC. It's not about who "did the worst", it's about getting rid of the trash.

Edit: so many people keep responding by pointing out Moore's crimes are soooo much worse. I agree. But why on earth does thst excuse Franken's behavior? Newsflash, IT DOESN'T.

Edit 2: Jesus so many people are pointing out that child molestation deserves a worse punishment than just groping someone. YES. I AGREE. Statutory rapists deserve PRISON. Franken does not. But they should both be fired. If you sexually harrassment someone, you should be fired from your job. This is what is meant by "sexual harrassment is sexual harrassment". Not doing this (aka enforcing 0 consequences) means thst people will forever keep assaulting people.

And yes, touching people without consent is HARASSMENT. The amount of people responding that whst he did was fine scares me. Do you people really think it's okay to grab someone's ass without consent even if done in a comedic setting? Wtf

Edit 3: I get it, Republicans don't care about hypocrisy. Let's stoop to their level then, cuz that's the solution

And then the Republicans will be like, "Wow, the Democrats have such higher morals. We should vote for them."

/s

Franken's behavior is quantifiably nowhere near as bad as Moore's.

This is why democrats are so innefective. They allow themselves to be bullied into giving up when there's nothing you can say or do to get a republican to back down.

Comparing Franken to Moore is just more false equivalency.

Robb starking*

He considers the picture from the original accusation, that showed mimed groping, to have been crossing a line, as it was in terrible taste.

Most liberals I know or see on the internet are very pessimistic about the Alabama race and assume Roy Moore will win regardless of polls.

This is what kills me though. Dems are acting as if they needed to do this in order to be credible in asking Republicans to do the same--but Republicans literally could not care less. Moral high ground or not, they're going to straight up ignore everything and do what they want. When, in the last decade, has it happened any other way?

All that's happened here is we've lost an important senator. We gain nothing.

Edit: First gold. Thanks kind stranger!

Still too soon, RIP to the true kingindanorf

I worry if this will have the effect they intended. It now appears only Republicans are innocent until proven guilty.

Regardless of how his trials go, this quote made is resignation even more important than it already was. I was praying he'd put the spotlight right on Trump after seeing he had an announcement last night.

Doug Jones and Moore are tied in the latest polls.

When credible evidence of pedophilia and abuse of authority come out about 1 candidates, and he still has reasonable chance of winning, what reason is there to be optimistic?

Thank you for being the one person to explicitly call it what it was, miming. It infuriates me how many people call that a photo of groping.

Democrats: "Ha Ha! Now they will have to start taking responsibility for their actions!"

Republicans: "One down."

Nothing will get better in this country until we end the competition for blaming which side is held to a lower standard and start holding our own parties to higher standards.

Edit: everyone criticizing my comment is basically saying democrats should be hypocrites. If you think dems are angels you don’t know how much Bill Clinton’s economic policies fucked this country over and how many rape accusations he’s had.

Amazing how Democrats get together and say "You gotta go, you're hurting the party." but Republicans can't show the slightest hint of integrity and do the same with Roy Moore.

EDIT: I see a lot of people missed the story where Trump has doubled down his support for Moore:

AUBURN, Ala. — President Trump on Monday strongly endorsed Roy S. Moore, the Republican nominee for a United States Senate seat here, prompting the Republican National Committee to restore its support for a candidate accused of sexual misconduct against teenage girls.

From here: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/us/politics/roy-moore-donald-trump.html

In what way? Minnesota has voted for the democratic presidential candidate 7 times in a row. The seat is safe. It's still a democratic vote.

Edit: OK, I get it. No seat is safe, MN is full of Conservatives and Santa isn't real. I'll go back to being miserably aware of how shitty everything is.

Not even just for government but for everything. An accusation is the new guilty and denial and pr is the new innocent. Facts seemingly don't matter. Think of all the people in Hollywood caught up in metoo. The ones that dug in their heels and denied are doing much better than others.

It's important to remember that they're probably tied in the polls because people are too ashamed to admit they're voting for the pedophile.

He did say he "crossed a line" so he's admitting to something.

Can’t wait for Reddit next Tuesday.

He should've honored the wedding arrangement. That was a massive fuck up on his part :/

I feel like this is what we are saying but the other party isn't even playing the same game at this point.

No, but suburban moderate Republican voters (notably women) who already despise Trump may now have even more reason to turn their backs on the GOP.

Except it's not.

Because the other side refuses to get rid of their trash.

The only thing that Franken's resignation will do is weaken the position of Democrats in Washington.

Precedent set. Sexual assault, misconduct, and allegations of the like lead to resignation on the left, but political backing from the right.

Voters will decide who they support in the next round of elections. Until then we wait.

I've been through this entire thread and the amount of polarization is just disheartening. This country is so fucked.

His replacement will be a Democrat because they will be chosen by the governor, who is a Democrat. It won’t affect their ability to block the Republican agenda. The biggest difference is that there will be a special election in 2018 to determine who finishes the last two years of Franken’s term. And because midterms usually favor the opposition party, they have a very good chance of winning that too.

Let’s see what happens with Roy Moore. I’m sure he’ll do the honorable thing and drop out.

/s

Dems will probably win, but it's not as blue as you think.

Just wanted to provide you with the exact quote:

“I of all people am aware that there is some irony in the fact I am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape of his history of sexual assault is in the Oval Office, and a man who has repeatedly preyed on young girls has the full support of his party,” Franken said.

See: Trump polling.

Moral high ground or not, they're going to straight up ignore everything and do what they want.

The republicans get away with this time and time again because their voters allow it. Remember when we were all outraged that a gay soldier was booed during a republican debate? Remember when we were appalled by Trump's Access Hollywood tape? Republicans didn't bat a fucking eye, they stood by their candidate and they will stand behind Moore.

There's no such thing as the mythical middle-class suburban moderate Democrats have spent the last decade chasing.

Oh, sure, the middle-class white Republicans typically aren't as backwards on social issues as working-class Republicans, but the things Dems never seem to grasp is that's because they don't really care. They don't really care about racism. They don't really care about homophobia. They want tax breaks for their small businesses. They want regulations they view as troublesome to go away. They may join with the Dems in condemning far-right-wingers for their racism and sexism and so on, but when the time comes, they'll still vote for them, because they don't really care.

Edit: The white middle-class voted for Trump in the same numbers they did for previous Republicans, and formed the core of his support. They just voted for him despite his racism and sexism, not because of it.

I don't think he should've resigned. This sets a precedent where accusations alone can destroy careers. Make no mistake, this problem is only going to get worse. I don't know if he's guilty or innocent, but damn the Democrats really turned on him. Almost seems like he was sacrificed to pressure Moore.

This is like a recent episode of Orville (although its season 1 so all are recent). They don't get lawyers when arrested, they get PR reps. Doesn't matter your guilt or innocence, matters how you sell yourself on your PR tour.

You can clearly see the shadow of his hands and fingers on her body which basically proves there was no contact. Why can’t people comprehend this?

Yes it was inappropriate and in bad taste but it is not even comparable to preying on 14 yr old girls.

Limbaugh has already primed his audience (of 20 million devoted followers) to expect this. He told them to expect a Franken resignation as part of a ploy to make Trump and Moore to look bad. He also told them the ploy it wouldn't work (and then waved his hand like a jedi).

For many pedophiles, it’s impossible to make ends meet. These sex criminals are often shunned both socially and professionally, making it extremely difficult for them to find any sort of gainful employment. But now a group called the GOP is trying to change all that: This amazing organization helps disgraced pedophiles rebuild their lives by getting them elected to political office.

If that doesn’t lift your spirits, we don’t know what will.

While most Americans are openly disgusted by pedophiles, the bighearted people over at the GOP seek to help them find decent, well-paying jobs where they can shape national policy. You only need to look at the amazing work the GOP is doing with pedophile Roy Moore in the special U.S. Senate election in Alabama to know that this organization is looking out for the people society tries to put in the margins.

[stolen from ClickHole]

This really is more about internal politics and 2020 strategy than anything else.

The sudden push for the Democrats to turn against Al Franken, which all happened in the last 48 hours leading up to this, was largely driven Kamala Harris an Kirsten Gillibrand. Gillibrand's public call for Franken to resign yesterday which was immediately followed by over 20 people, including Harris who called for it on CNN, had obviously been very well coordinated and planned.

Franken was looking at running for president in 2020 and so are Harris and Gillibrand. He is a big star for the Democrats and has much more name recognition, so they saw this as an opportunity to take him out now while he was hurt by this, so that they don't have to take him on in the 2019 DNC primaries.

It was the shot that lead to this moment today. After that a story was "leaked" to the press that Franken was going to resign tomorrow, and by the time Franken had come out and said it wasn't true a few hours later it had already been reported everywhere and it just gained it's own momentum.

And they might at least not vote.

It’s never as blue as it seems, red takes over anywhere that’s not a major city.

yeah. that was because it was Clinton....

Franken claims he didn't sexually harass anybody. If he truly believes that, he shouldn't have resigned (and wasn't going to). He resigned, understandably, because he was abandoned by his party who thought it would help their chances getting Doug Jones elected.

No, the polls last year were actually quite accurate. They put Hillary winning by roughly 2%, which she did. It was the analysis of the polls that were wrong, not the polling numbers. People weren't ashamed to admit they were voting for Trump.

He should have rammed the mud gate

Franken needed a recount to get elected the first time, and won by 312 votes. Not safe by any means.

That’s not how precedent works. At all.

Ignoring for a moment the tribalism that has become US politics, the descent into sexual assault madness is troubling. Mere accusation is sufficient to ruin someone’s life. With Franken there was strong evidence but there is an ethics investigation and a legal process in the works. Running a campaign of harrassment is close to a modern lynch mob. And that’s why has happened here with the nonstop pressure for him to resign.

I’m a little troubled by how this has ended. It’s not healthy from a judicial perspective. Did he do it or not? In the eyes of the public, yes. But the public is gullible and easily manipulated. If mob mentality is where we are going to take things it’s going to get ugly.

His fatal flaw was sending Theon back to the Iron Islands. The cascade of his downfall stemmed from there.

yeah. that was because it was Clinton....

Spot on. I live in MN, and I voted for Clinton, but I -- like many others -- really wanted Sanders.

Trump and Moore need absolutely no help looking bad. Limbaughs a fucking idiot.

I think Franken’s enemies just managed to create a successful smokescreen of allegations. None of the allegations, taken on their own, are anything to resign over.

Edit for clarity, since this has RIP’d my inbox: I don’t disbelieve Franken’s accusers. I feel that people are failing to see what they are actually accusing him of. I believe he did those things, and deserves shame for it. But some people just stop at ‘wow eight women accused him of something, he ought to resign’, and that’s bullshit. Look at what he’s actually accused of.

Also, if you are someone who has thought he should have resigned since the first photo, I do not need to hear from you, thanks. He apologized and she forgave him, and that should be enough for anyone.

Edit 2: Since I did the work anyways, and it’s relevant to my point, here’s the current list.


Leeann Tweeden posted a photo of Al Franken hovering over her while she was asleep, the photo was inappropriate and Franken apologized for it. She also regretted agreeing to kiss Franken for a skit they were to perform and believed he kissed her too forcefully; when she objected, he agreed to stop. Franken apologized for this behavior and Tweeden publicly forgave Franken accepted his apology and stated she did not wish for him to step down.
Lindsay Menz accused Franken of touching her butt during a photo op together at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010. Despite this happening while a photo was taken, I was unable to find this photo, if anyone has it please let me know.
‘Unnamed woman’ claims Franken grabbed her butt during a photo op ’eerily similar Lindsey Menz’, says she voted for him anyway. Despite this happening while a photo was taken, I was unable to find this photo, if anyone has it please let me know.
‘Unnamed woman’ anonymously claims that Franken cupped her butt during a photo op at Democratic fundraiser in Minneapolis in 2008. Despite this happening while a photo was taken, I was unable to find this photo, if anyone has it please let me know.
Stephanie Kemplin, 41, of Maineville, Ohio, accuses Franken of groping her and provides this photo of the incident, note that he isn’t groping her in the photo by any reasonable definition.
‘Unnamed woman’ accused Franken of trying to kiss her on his radio show, says a crowd looked on and did nothing
‘Unnamed woman’ spoke anonymously to Politico, said Franken tried to forcibly kiss her during a taping of his radio show in 2006.
Tina Dupuy said Franken "knew exactly what he was doing" when he grabbed her waist and squeezed and twice while posing for a photo. Despite this happening while a photo was taken, I was unable to find this photo, if anyone has it please let me know.

I think Franken’s enemies just managed to create a successful smokescreen of allegations. None of the allegations, taken on their own, are anything to resign over.

Edit for clarity, since this has RIP’d my inbox: I don’t disbelieve Franken’s accusers. I feel that people are failing to see what they are actually accusing him of. I believe he did those things, and deserves shame for it. But some people just stop at ‘wow eight women accused him of something, he ought to resign’, and that’s bullshit. Look at what he’s actually accused of.

Also, if you are someone who has thought he should have resigned since the first photo, I do not need to hear from you, thanks. He apologized and she forgave him, and that should be enough for anyone.

Edit 2: Since I did the work anyways, and it’s relevant to my point, here’s the current list.

Leeann Tweeden posted a photo of Al Franken hovering over her while she was asleep, the photo was inappropriate and Franken apologized for it. She also regretted agreeing to kiss Franken for a skit they were to perform and believed he kissed her too forcefully; when she objected, he agreed to stop. Franken apologized for this behavior and Tweeden publicly forgave Franken accepted his apology and stated she did not wish for him to step down.

Lindsay Menz accused Franken of touching her butt during a photo op together at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010. Despite this happening while a photo was taken, I was unable to find this photo, if anyone has it please let me know.

‘Unnamed woman’ claims Franken grabbed her butt during a photo op ’eerily similar Lindsey Menz’, says she voted for him anyway. Despite this happening while a photo was taken, I was unable to find this photo, if anyone has it please let me know.

‘Unnamed woman’ anonymously claims that Franken cupped her butt during a photo op at Democratic fundraiser in Minneapolis in 2008. Despite this happening while a photo was taken, I was unable to find this photo, if anyone has it please let me know.

Stephanie Kemplin, 41, of Maineville, Ohio, accuses Franken of groping her and provides , note that he isn’t groping her in the photo by any reasonable definition.

‘Unnamed woman’ accused Franken of trying to kiss her on his radio show, says a crowd looked on and did nothing

‘Unnamed woman’ spoke anonymously to Politico, said Franken tried to forcibly kiss her during a taping of his radio show in 2006.

Tina Dupuy said Franken "knew exactly what he was doing" when he grabbed her waist and squeezed and twice while posing for a photo. Despite this happening while a photo was taken, I was unable to find this photo, if anyone has it please let me know.

It's because we live in a world where actual rape is totally fine as long as you have the magic "R" by your name

"I hover handed some boobs in a staged photo" - Franken

That and its Minnesota. It's certainly not a guaranteed blue win but its a very politically active state that has been pretty anti-trump.

Amazing how Democrats get together and say "You gotta go, you're hurting the party."

Republicans don't say that because it's not true for them.

If there is something Democrats love more than losing, its losing while screwing another democrat over. This party is a fucking mess, no wonder Republicans keep winning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJidGI-NMd0

I've even heard it referred to as sexual assault, actually (probably from the right to further disparage him.) Seems like a pretty big disservice to people who are actually assaulted. It was a bad joke, but that's about it. She was also conducting herself inappropriately around that time She was also engaging in sexually charged behavior, which could easily lead to an atmosphere where he thought this sexual joke would be okay.

I haven't really liked Franken since his state went to Sanders and he still insisted he'd use his superdelegate for Clinton.. but this particular instance is overblown.

Edit : I am not victim shaming any one, nor did I say it excused his behavior. Everything has context however. Here is the woman he pretended to grope in the picture.

Again, this doesn't excuse his behavior. But there is context to everything.

Edit #2 : Here she is on the same tour, pretending to hump Robin Williams and smack his ass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=GKERuf_hwLw

Also, she's contributed to Sean Hannity's show.. so take that for what you will.

I watched that episode recently. They would upvote and downvote people from their phones.

What a silly concept!

Democrats have the moral high ground.

Republicans have the house, the senate, the POTUS, the supreme court..

Not even the US. Look at the election maps in Turkey for the last election. It is a global thing that rural people tend to vote with very different points of view than urban people. Nothing new under the sun.

Here is a recent election map for Turkey. The yellow portion is the AKP, which is their conservative party. Seem familiar? (red is conservative in US)

Posting this because a lot of people I talk to and see on reddit feel that this is unique to their country, when it's a worldwide trend. I have traveled a LOT. And the way people see the world in rural Louisana is not far from people I have spoken with in rural areas of China. Seems we are so different, until you realize we aren't. Part of the fun of traveling!

Not even the US. Look at the election maps in Turkey for the last election. It is a global thing that rural people tend to vote with very different points of view than urban people. Nothing new under the sun.

Here is a recent election map for Turkey. The yellow portion is the AKP, which is their conservative party. Seem ? (red is conservative in US)

Posting this because a lot of people I talk to and see on reddit feel that this is unique to their country, when it's a worldwide trend. I have traveled a LOT. And the way people see the world in rural Louisana is not far from people I have spoken with in rural areas of China. Seems we are so different, until you realize we aren't. Part of the fun of traveling!

If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

As soon as the Democrats start excusing sexual misconduct because “the Republicans are doing it,” then there’s no real reason to keep fighting.

At some point you have to recognize that politics is not an end in itself. The Republicans decided that winning is more important than actually standing for something, and look at the gross abomination their party has become.

“I molested underaged girls.” — Future Republican Senator

“I grabbed pussies by the dozen.” — Sitting Republican President with no intention of resigning

But at least with Franken’s departure Democrats get to feel superior and, in politics, that’s how you get legislation passed.

Edit: added but then deleted /s because not necessary

You're forgetting about abortion. They'll always vote R, because Jesus.

Edit: ok look, I want to edit this comment to address pro-life people, because it's apparently mildly visible.

I assume we're all reasonable people capable of having a reasonable discussion. I apologize for how dismissive my original comment was to your pro-life beliefs, but (as you'll see below) I think there are much more powerful, logical, goal-oriented reasons for being pro-choice (and remember, we're all anti-abortion – nobody likes abortions). At times, it does feel as though pro-life people cling to a belief and close their ears to anything else, which leaves a lot of people feeling the sentiment I originally expressed in a shitty one-liner.

However, I do think that we all at least want information presented to us to challenge our beliefs and allow us to grow as people. So, if you're pro-life, I'd like to give you three thought experiments below with questions included that I'd like you to answer in response to this comment if you have the time and inclination:

1) 81% of the country thinks that abortion should be legal in at least some cases (source: Pew Research). For example, in situations where the mother's life is in jeopardy, in cases of forced incest, in cases of rape, and other medical or moral reasons. That's 81% of Americans. Restricting abortion at the federal level in any way allows states like Texas to pass wildly restrictive laws that limit abortion centers' ability to operate and serve people in these demographics. Arduous state regulations are why there are only sixteen abortion clinics in Texas vs. 218 in New York.

Breaking it down:

Texas has 28M people, for a rate of 1 clinic per every 1.75 million people.

NY has 19.75M people, for a rate of 1 clinic per every 90,000 people.

TX has 268,000 square miles of land, for a rate of 1 clinic every 16,750 square miles.

NY has 54,500 square miles of land, for a rate of 1 clinic every 250 square miles.

Now, if you're part of the 81% of Americans who believe that in some – any – cases, an abortion should be legal, you should understand why voting for Republicans works against that goal. Any restrictions – any – at the federal level allow states like Texas to logistically prevent women in danger from receiving a potentially life-saving abortion. It is truly impossible for some women in certain states like Texas to receive an abortion in any scenario because of state laws presenting wildly arduous regulations on the industry, and only left-wing candidates will actually see to it that women in need are able to get abortions when they've reached the point of no other option.

If you're in the 81%, which party do you think will allow life-saving abortions to be administered as needed to women in jeopardy?

If you're not in 81% of Americans who believe this, then would you respect the wishes of 4/5 voters and vote for the better policies to pursue to achieve these goals?

2) Financial pressure of raising a child is the #1 reason people decide to have an abortion. There is one group of politicians – progressives – that push for tuition-free college, mandatory maternity leave, affordable child daycare, and broader healthcare coverage provided by a government option.

If these policies would all reduce the financial burden of having a child, what do you think would happen to the abortion rate?

Additionally, access to contraception and robust sexual education has been proven to reduce abortion rates (down 42% in Colorado since free IUDs were offered to women).

If the goal is fewer abortions, which party would you vote for to improve access to contraception?

3) A man is dying and needs a heart transplant to live. He has 24 hours left before he passes, but if he receives a new heart, there is a 99% chance he'll live.

In the next room in the hospital, there is a woman with a healthy heart that matches his needs, and she will 100% die due to injuries sustained in an auto accident.

However, that woman is not an organ donor.

We, as a society, have decided that her right to her own body is so sacred, that we will let that man die in the next room if she doesn't consent to having her chest opened up and her heart harvested to save another life. We, as a society, actively and daily choose to let countless people die, leaving behind entire families, because we so value someone's bodily autonomy.

Would you be in favor of forced organ donations in cases like the above in order to save a fully-formed life?

If not, do you think that is consistent with your view on abortion, where you want to take away someone's bodily autonomy to save a non-fully-formed life?

Very curious as to how pro-life people feel on all of these questions. Thanks for reading.

Anyone else feel like sexually assaulted women are being used as pawns in political chess moves?

he said he's going to resign "in the coming weeks." He hasn't actually resigned yet, and may drag this out for some time.

How does this make any sense?

They're Ned Stark-ing themselves. Refusing to forsake their honor even if it means their downfall.

Robb Stark got stabbed in the back.

Did you watch Full Frontal yesterday? Sam Bee has gone off the deep end. She literally called any man that has misbehaved around women a sexual predator. ANY misbehavior. Equating just being an asshole to a woman to rape.

I used to respect her. That went away.

Isn't that true like for the entire country?

Franken has denied most accounts or said they're not as he remembers, but still resigned.

I honestly have no fucking idea what to think of the Republican voter at this point. What do these people typically get outraged about on a routine basis?

They get outraged about young girls having sex.

They get outraged about people who don't adhere to Christian/moral values.

This guy fucked a teenage girl (who was underage and couldn't consent) and they are honestly debating whether they should reelect him or not.

I'm not a Christian. I know plenty of good Christians who would nail themselves to a cross to end some world suffering. Anybody who calls themselves a Christian and would willingly consider reelecting a child rapist is existing in a headspace I can't ever hope to rationalize.

No hate on the good Christians. Shame on the ones who overlook scum like Roy Moore.

Every Democrat I know has already made peace with the fact that Roy Moore will win next week. Our opinion of Alabama is that low.

Yeah I don't think so. I think it's going to be that awesome pattern of Democrats taking the high ground and Republicans taking advantage of it.

They try to reach across the aisle and compromise and aren't able to get much done when they have a majority. Republicans steamroll them when they get into power.

They create (relatively) fair voting districts and allow republicans to get into power. Republican state officials create the most egregiously gerrymandered districts in history so they can cling to power despite widespread negative approval ratings.

They delay their right to nominate and confirm a LIFETIME SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, and effectively give it to the Republicans (this one I'll never forgive them for. As soon as repubs said they'd refuse to see any nominees they should have grown a pair and just pushed him through), and now:

Democrats encourage their own sexually-harassing senator to step down, Republicans simultaneously criticize him while openly supporting a statutory rapist / child abuser, who will become the next senator of Alabama.

Then of course there's the massively higher amount of money republicans take from corporate interests, and then just coincidentally vote in their favor on even nonpartisan issues like Net Neutrality.

I'm not saying Franken shouldn't have stepped down. It's just hard when your opposing party's elected officials literally have no values.

EDIT: wow I get it "how could the democrats have pushed the nominee through", did you guys miss the massive debate about it back when it was happening? The argument goes that if the senate refuses to review a Supreme Court nominee then they waive their right to review. It probably would have gone to the Supreme Court itself and been decided there, and clearly it needs clarification anyway. The precedent that we've set instead is a much more dangerous one, where the nominee is effectively decided entirely by the senate. It robs the president of an important check and shifts the balance of power even more toward a corrupt congress.

Soon to be Senate: -1 woman's right champion, +1 child abuser

Good job Democrats getting played like a book.

Jeff Flake publicly donated to the guy running against Moore. Multiple high ranking Republicans have publicly called Moore out. It's dishonest to lump everyone into one category of liking Moore.

He was a shit candidate before the allegations and he's a shittier one after, but to act like he has complete mainstream Republican support is dishonest.

Flake "Country over party" with donation check: https://twitter.com/JeffFlake/status/938160754490052609

Flake on triabalism and we shoudn't support it: https://twitter.com/JeffFlake/status/934869905207209984

Romney calling him out: https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/937799838082781186

Sen. Mitch McConnell

While speaking to reporters on Monday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said he believes the women quoted in the Washington Post story. He urged Moore to step aside in light of the allegations.

Previously, McConnell said Moore should step aside if "these allegations are true." Sen. Cory Gardner

Cory Gardner, the National Republican Senatorial Committee chairman, said Monday that he believes the women who have alleged Moore's misconduct. In a statement, he encouraged the Senate to "vote to expel" Moore should he win the election next month.

Sen. Mike Lee

"He does not meet the ethical and moral requirements of the United States Senate," Gardner, R-Colo., said. Sen. Mike Lee

A former backer of Moore, Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, pulled his endorsement from Moore after the allegations came to light.

"Having read the detailed description of the incidents, as well as the response from Judge Moore and his campaign, I can no longer endorse his candidacy for the US Senate," Lee said in a tweet.

He had also requested that Moore's campaign no longer use his image.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski

“I’m horrified and if it’s true, he should step down immediately,” Murkowski told reporters.

She reportedly also urged Sen. Luther Strange, who was appointed to fill Jeff Sessions’ seat when he was tapped to become attorney general, to launch a write-in campaign. The deadline to take Moore off the ballot has passed.

Sen. Mike Rounds

“If they are true, then he should seriously think about stepping aside," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D., said.

Sen. John Cornyn

“I find it deeply distrusting and troubling. It’s up to the governor and the folks of Alabama to make that decision as far as what the next steps are," Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Texas, said. He later withdrew his endorsement of Moore.

Sen. Tim Scott

“If they’re accurate, he absolutely should [step aside]," Tim Scott, of South Carolina, said.

Sen. Susan Collins

In a tweet, Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, called for Moore to "withdraw from the Senate race in Alabama."

Collins wrote that she listened to Moore deny the allegations in a recent radio interview, but "did not find his denials to be convincing."

Collins' most recent statement comes after she previously tweeted: "If there is any truth at all to these horrific allegations, Roy Moore should immediately step aside as Senate candidate."

Sen. Steve Daines

"I am pulling my endorsement and support for Roy Moore for U.S. Senate," said Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont.

Sen. John McCain

"The allegations against Roy Moore are deeply disturbing and disqualifying. He should immediately step aside and allow the people of Alabama to elect a candidate they can be proud of," Arizona Sen. John McCain said.

Sen. Richard Shelby

“It’s a devastating nasty story,” Alabama Sen. Richard Shelby told reporters. “If it’s true, I don’t believe there’d be a place for him in the U.S. Senate.”

He said that he did not vote for Moore when he sent in his absentee ballot but voted instead for a "distinguished Republican write-in."

Sen. Jeff Flake

Like other Republicans, Flake called on Moore to “step aside” from the election.

"Just to be clear. If the choice is between Roy Moore and a Democrat, I would run to the polling place to vote for the Democrat," Flake tweeted.

He’s said that “Republicans to support Roy Moore over Doug Jones is political tribalism at its worst.”

Flake also tweeted a photo of a check made out to Jones for $100 with "Country over Party" written in the memo line.

Sen. Luther Strange

Alabama Sen. Luther Strange, who lost the special election primary to Roy Moore, called the allegations “disturbing.”

It is too late to take Moore off the ballot, but Strange has been encouraged to launch a write-in campaign.

Sen. Rob Portman

“I think if what we read is true, and people are on the record so I assume it is, then he should step aside,” Ohio Sen. Rob Portman said.

Sen. Ben Sasse

Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., called the Washington Post’s story "heartbreaking."

Sasse also slammed the Republican National Committee for providing funds to Moore’s race.

“This is a bad decision and very sad day. I believe the women – and the RNC previously did too. What’s changed? Or is the party just indifferent?” Sasse said on Twitter. “This sends a terrible message to victims ‘it’s not that the party won’t believe you if you come forward. It might. But just doesn’t care.’”

The senator than warned that if the National Republican Senatorial Committee decided to contribute to Moore, he would “no longer be a donor to or fund-raiser for it.”

Sen. Ted Cruz

"These are serious and troubling allegations," Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who previously endorsed Moore, said in a statement. "If they are true, Judge Moore should immediately withdraw. However, we need to know the truth, and Judge Moore has the right to respond to these accusations."

Sen. Bill Cassidy

Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La., officially withdrew his support from the candidate.

"Based on the allegations against Roy Moore, his response and what is known, I withdraw support," he said.

Sen. Orrin Hatch

"I stand with the Majority Leader on this. These are serious and disturbing accusations, and while the decision is now in the hands of the people of Alabama, I believe Luther Strange is an excellent alternative," Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, tweeted.

But a week before the election, Hatch said Trump didn’t have another choice but to endorse Moore, Bloomberg reported. He also said that “many of the things he allegedly did are decades ago. So it’s hard to – that’s a decision that has to be made by the people in that state.”

“If they make that decision, who are we to question them?” Hatch said.

Sen. Pat Toomey

“We'll probably never know for sure exactly what happened," Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"But … I think the accusations have more credibility than the denial. I think it would be best if Roy would just step aside.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham

South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham took to Twitter to say Moore should step aside in the Alabama Senate race.

"In light of the most recent allegations and the cumulative effect of others, I believe [Moore] would be doing himself, the state, the GOP, and the country a service by stepping aside," Graham said. "If he continues this will not end well for Mr. Moore."

In light of the most recent allegations and the cumulative effect of others, I believe #RoyMoore would be doing himself, the state, the GOP, and the country a service by stepping aside.

He has also bemoaned Trump’s attempt “to throw a lifeline to” Moore.

Rep. Paul Ryan

House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said if the allegations are true, they would disqualify Moore from the special election.

“These allegations are disqualifying if true. Anyone who would do this to a child has no place in public office, let alone the United States Senate,” Ryan said in a statement.

Rep. Peter King

"I would say unless he can prove his innocence, the burden is now on him within the next day or so, I believe he has to step down. He owes it to himself, he owes it to the state and and he owes it to the U.S. Senate," New York Rep. Peter King said after the allegations came out.

Rep. Lee Zeldin

In a tweet, Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., called for that "creepy Roy Moore dude" to step aside from the campaign.

"It's about that time for that creepy Roy Moore dude to exit stage left. He should step aside & let someone take his spot on the ballot who doesn't prey upon young teenage girls as a grown man," he said.

Gov. John Kasich

Ohio Gov. John Kasich said on Twitter that he’s “long opposed” Moore and called on him to step aside from the race as well.

“I’ve long opposed Roy Moore [and] his divisive viewpoints. The actions described make him unfit for office. The GOP must not support him. He should step aside,” Kasich said.

Former Gov. Mitt Romney

Mitt Romney, the 2012 Republican presidential nominee, slammed Moore on Twitter.

“Innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections. I believe Leigh Corfman,” the former governor said. “Her account is too serous to ignore. Moore is unfit for office and should step aside.”

"Roy Moore in the US Senate would be a stain on the GOP and on the nation. Leigh Corfman and other victims are courageous heroes. No vote, no majority is worth losing our honor, our integrity," Romney said in another tweet on Dec. 4.

Former Gov. Jeb Bush

Former Republican presidential candidate and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Moore should step down in light of the allegations.

"This is not a question of innocence or guilt like in a criminal proceeding; this is a question of what’s right and what’s wrong. Acknowledging that you’re dating teenagers when you’re 32 years old as assistant state attorney is wrong. It’s just plain wrong," he told CNBC, adding that he agreed with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who said earlier Monday that Moore should "step aside."

He's not wanted and Alabama voters want him.

Resignation is seen by many a sign of guilt. Whether or not he is or isn't. They will say, "See, now that Roy Moore is a senator he can't be ACTUALLY guilty as he would have stepped down if the claims were legitimate." ugh

I've said this over and over and just get hate for it. The Republicans are psychotic bullies and the Democrats are a club for pussies.

Maybe I should change my language to be less offensive and conform to....dammit there I go again thinking like a Democrat.

This sounds horrifyingly euphemistic.

Of course, this is all ONLY true if the person being investigated is a Democrat; if they're a Republican the investigation is a witch hunt and fake news planted by the Dems to discredit a good Christian family man just trying to make our country great again.

She's also against busing in lower income kids to her children's privilege school. She's totally for busing in those kids to your children's school though.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled/2016/06/17/the_upper_west_side_is_new_york_s_latest_school_in...

I know such suburban Republican women voters. I work with them. They eat up everything Fox News says. The Roy Moore and Trump accusations are left wing conspiracy theories, and only democrats have actually admitted to it, they say.

I'm sick of the Democrats taking the bait on this bullshit. They're naive and always take the high road to failure. You can't win like that when the other side can remain united in power despite having the moral compass of a Roman bathhouse.

Like it or not, his behavior is not acceptable from a member of Congress.

This should be a non-partisan issue; sexual harassment is not tolerable, from anyone against anyone. Get rid of them all, Red and Blue.

America stands on the precipice of a fresh moral panic. Buckle up, buttercup.

We gain nothing.

And even worse, we've morally compromised ourselves by selling out actual justice for the court of public opinion.

I've had the opportunity to live in a few countries and rest assured every country has its strengths and its weaknesses, and every country is made of a populace of generally good people often governed by generally shitty people. America isn't as unique as you may think in that regard.

Isn't that kind of shitty, though? Throw a good guy under the bus just so the shit that's getting flung at another guy would stick?

Don't forget that it's also because Jesus is on his side. I live in Alabama and I have had to hear the most insane drivel coming from my coworkers about Roy Moore. They will defend him to the death just to prove they won't vote for a liberal.

Can we take a moment to talk about how great the Orville is? It’s like satire and homage rolled into one tasty ball.

Democrats and liberals need to realize, they aren't playing the same game as the republican party.

Minnesota seems misleadingly liberal thanks to thing like being a state that voted for Bernie in the primaries. It is nationally blue, but the local politics is VERY split.

The reality is that Minnesota has a Republican legislature, was home to Tim Pawlenty and Michelle Bacchman. Franken won his seat in an EXTREMELY tight race. Same for governor Dayton.

Make no mistake. If a Democrat wins in 2018, it will be by luck. There is not guarantee.

Once again, Dems have hanged themselves by their own standards, while GOP doesn't even agree that it's a standard.

Do they really think that Trump or Moore will step aside now that Franken has? As if they follow his lead or respect him in any way, shape, or form?

I'm not saying that he should have stayed on, if you're a sexual harasser you should step aside. They have just completely failed to get mass consensus from their opponents. They will regret Franken resigning so soon.

Welcome to american politics! Where everybody lies and decency doesnt mean anything.

They aren't going to. The Democrats may have set a good example, but the Republicans won't follow suit. So, at the end of the day, you just lost another Democrat senator.

Good. Now it's time for the other side to clean it's house.

He had no other choice

Almost every Democratic Senator said you have to go

Snowball's chance in hell of that happening. Both sides play by different rules.

I agree he had to for the sake of his constituents-but I didn’t expect to tear up listening to him speak. When he mentioned Trump and Moore-I got angry/sad as to how it’s all playing out.

I guess with Trump he gets your benefit of the doubt but for Democrats it's automatic guilt?

Edit: oh and Moore, he's super innocent I'm sure